Sir Gooligan Hooray wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 06:18:14 GMT, KittyKat <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

~A~ wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:08:55 GMT, KittyKat <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

What exactly IS conciousness???

Its like a 'pipeline' where sentient beings can communicate.

NO. It is what we percieve as reality. Not communication. When my conciousness leaves my body the world as I know it in this reality no longer exists. It is not a where but a what.

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(found in the BBC documentary called 'The Day I Died')


BBC documentary...

'The Day I Died':

Long tunnels, bright lights, reunions with dead friends and relatives,
and past-life flashing before the eyes have all been described as
experiences in near death. Since they were first described in the USA
nearly three decades ago, testimonies have been gathered by the
thousand all overthe world. In the USA alone, over 13 million adults
have described their near-death experiences. Now, using the latest
scientific evidence and real-life accounts, as well as input from
sceptics, 'The Day I Died' lifts the lid on these incredible NDE
phenomena.

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UK Television Documentary [Posted: February 3, 2003; Updated: March 4]
"The Day I Died" - BBC2, Wednesday February 5 at 9pm to 10pm.

This documentary explores the theory that near-death experiences
actually come from beyond the brain. New clinical research is daring
to suggest the unbelievable, that NDE's are evidence that the mind can
live on after the brain has stopped functioning.

Narrated by Tom Wilkinson; Director Kate Broome; Executive producer
Julia Simmons.

Comment by Michael Roll:    At last a balance is beginning to creep in on mainstream television.
On 5th February two British scientists - Dr. Sam Parnia and Dr. Peter
Fenwick - had the courage to go against orthodox scientific teaching
that starts from the base that the mind dies with the brain. They have
made a thorough study of near-death experiences that give evidence
that there are people operating in the invisible part of the universe.
However, so far no qualified scientist in the United Kingdom has dared
to back up this evidence with the crushing scientific proof of
survival.

So far, the public has only had access to the thoughts of "experts",
so-called sceptics, who can be relied upon to tear into the pioneers
of subatomic physics who actually proved we all survive the death of
our physical bodies. Continuing to allow this one-sided assault on
great scientists, whose only "crime" was to tell the truth, is beyond
the pale.

In future why not give the public a true balance on all television
programmes about life after death? Give the people a choice between
the religious approach to the subject and the secular arguments for
survival?
 
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i did not see that documentary. I can't argue or agree with any of the above. However I only have a personal experience of drowning at age six to rely on. But what I do remmeber was the initial panic then seeing myself below in the water and for a moment I did not even recognize myself, then everything went black. It was a very strange experience, but not religious or anything. Now it is more curiosity at how it is possible to actually see ones own body and not even recognize it as such and not even care what was happening to it. What has actually made me even more curious is why both animals and people weigh so little when near death or dieing compared to what they should or would if they are only unconcious, and how cold they are to the touch. Nothing like a weight of a limp relaxed body. Very strange. Maybe its the energy that provides the electrical impulses in our brains when we think or move our muscles that contains the actual conciousness or something. Would be nice to know for sure.