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| Russia Surpasses Americans In Space Race
|
| Russia Continues to Surpass Americans in the Space Race
|
|
|
| Russians had wanted to go to the moon. However, there were many concerns
with
| safety. The Van Allen Belts released a deadly radiation that could

easily

fry a
| person to death. Plus, the moon is 250,000 miles away - quite a

distance.

While
| I'm not familiar with how fast the rockets were, traveling at 1,200

miles

per
| hour, it would be approximately a 20-day journey each way, provided

there

were
| no problems. Even at 2-3 times that speed, it would still be a difficult
| journey. The amount of fuel required would be staggering, with the added
weight
| of people, food, air, supplies, etc. Yet somehow, these rockets managed

to

go
| much, much faster in a zero atmosphere with nothing with which to

propel?

| Perhaps, the speed is possible, yet one cannot deny the deadly radiation
rays
| out in space known as the Van Allen Belts.

This was one of my biggest questions. Given the technology we had back
then,I still find it
an impossibility.

| | In 1965, the U.S. made a fake moon landscape, which was used for

testing

a space
| vehicle. Some have suggested the scenery for the moon landing was faked.
Could
| this have been it?
| Russia seemed to continue to have "firsts" - except for the moon

landing.

On
| April 19, 1971, they had the first Space Station.  The Soviets launch
Salyut 1,
| the first orbiting space station.  Salyut 1's original crew reportedly
died
| during re-entry on June 30, 1971. Georgi Bobroeolski, Vladislav Volkov,
and
| Victor Patsayev had spent a new record of 23 days in outer space.

I think that fake landscape still exists....used as a science museum or
something. It would be interesting to
know if there are any similarities etc. Also, doesn't it take a while for
the sound to return to earth from the moon?? The astronauts didn't seem to
have a lapse or at least not a very discernible one when they
talked to each other and earth??? AND how did they manage to carry all

that

fuel to take OFF again???
There wasn't much said about what they actually DID or were doing once

they

took off to come back to earth.


 | Indeed, there is definitely something wrong here. If you take a moment

to

view
| video footage of the moon landing by U.S.  astronauts from back in the
1960s,
| you'll notice that the dust kicked up by astronauts immediately settles
down,
| just as if it was sand on the beach. Yet we all know that not only does
the moon
| have less gravity, but it also has zero-atmosphere.  Therefore, the moon
dust
| should travel further given the force and little to counteract it. Yet,
for some
| strange, unexplained reason, the moon dust resettles back to the ground

at

the
| same gravitational rate of 32 ft./sec. as the earth.

I saw the whole thing on the tv when it was happening. I often wondered

HOW

dust could settle
as fast as it did when they were running around. Wouldn't it have 'gently'
floated down with such low gravity??? And why did it land at all??? HOW
could the dust have the energy to fly up like that and not keep going?

| In a letter I received back from the astronaut Armstrong, which asked

him

about
| this strange fact of the same gravitational pull on both the moon and
earth, the
| response I was sent surprisingly admitted that, yes, the gravitational
pull
| should be different.  Of course, Armstrong didn't come right out and

admit

that
| this was the case. That might be the death sentence for him - similar to
what 3
| other U.S. astronauts experienced in the 1960s when their simulated

rocket

| mysteriously blew up during a ground test?  Oh, it was just an accident?
It
| makes you pause for a moment.
|
| Now, of course, it looks like the race to Mars has begun. U.S.

President

George
| W. Bush has stated that, perhaps, man will walk on Mars by the year

2020.

Bush
| stated that NASA may send astronauts to the moon again so that they may
| experience the effects of space travel shortly before sending them to
Mars.
|
| But if you look at the facts, you really have to wonder: Has man made it
to the
| moon yet?

I doubt it. But now with our more advanced technology even the trip to

Mars

can be faked much
more realistically.  What struck me as idiotic if not ODD is how the
astronauts were jumping around and
prancing around almost as if they were  in a regular field here on earth.
Yes, they did seem to land softer
but given their mass and the energy when they jumped or ran  they should
have been higher  and ran and jumped more distances. Also, to me at least

it

looked like they were running under water or something.
Frankly, I din't believe it then and I have even more doubts today given

the

increased knowledge about
space etc. than we had back then. Even the video was pretty grainy and I
wondered how they got the
pictures back live like the way they did.Very few people even had colored

tv

or could afford it, and all
the video equipments and even radios were still using the old tubes and
everything weighed tons....even
the tv sets. Look at the SIZE of computers back then. I worked in an

office

where one whole ROOM was devoted to HUGE computers running ticker wheels

and

producing tons of ticker tapes. They had to be constantly run and cooled
with huge fans. Anyways, I guess it was a good movie of the landing given
the times, but not a very believable one. Take a look at some of the old

SF

movies and you will see similarities.

http://vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/lemmod.gif
http://vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/lem1.gif
http://vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/lem8.gif
http://vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/vernbloc.gif

That thing can't even fly.

The possibility of human survival in open space was also called
into question. Did a space suit made of rubber and cloth in the
1960s protect people on the Moon, the planet having no
atmospheric layers and magnetic fields? Could it protect from
high radiation? The temperature of 250 Fahrenheit degrees below
zero would immediately kill humans in such suits. But it was
reported that none of the astronauts was even affected with
radiation sickness.

Former NASA staffer Bill Kaysing, the author of the book "NASA
Never Landed a Man on the Moon", confessed that even the
Agency itself considered the possibility of man's landing on the
Moon was 0.0017% at that period (which was practically
nothing!).

It is not ruled out that Americans did fly to the Moon, but didn't
advance further than its orbit. Robots did the rest of the work.
However, it is also unlikely that 382 kilograms of Moon soil could
be delivered to the Earth after three expeditions (Soviet Moon
research vehicles brought just 0.3 kg), because additional
kilograms of burden are risky for a rocket. The rest of the Moon
expedition simulation was just a political trick, shooting made in
pavilions that at the same time allowed the USA to spare billions
of dollars. This version resembles the movie Capricorn-1.
Probably, the movie was made with a view to rehabilitate
America for its big lies.

When the Apollo-Moon module system was studied more
carefully, it became clear that two astronauts in space suits
couldn't find room in the module, not to mention the Moon robot
that couldn't be placed there even non-assembled. What is more,
astronauts couldn't squeeze through a narrow tunnel between
the space ship and the module. In fact, an exit hatch opens
inward, not outside as the legendary documentary demonstrates.
The documentary was probably shot in a cargo bay of a swooping
supersonic airplane to create an effect of weightlessness. It is
strange but not a single star could be seen on the pictures of the
Moon flight. Stars are even brighter in space than as seen from
the Earth. Instead, there was blue light streaming into the
illuminators of the space ship, at the time when it is known that
open space is absolutely black.

Apollo landing was also strange: running of the engine didn't
move a single stone or a speck of dust on the Moon surface.
After that, the module settled on a flat surface. Pressure of a jet
engine would inevitably make a crater on the place of landing
while braking. As is know, the Moon gravitation makes up 1/6 of
the Earth gravitation. A cloud of dust thrown from under the
Apollo wheels should have been six times higher than depicted
on the photos.

As for the shadows that astronauts and their apparatuses cast
on the Moon, they were of different length and direction, at the
time when it is known that the Sun is the only source of light on
the Moon. It may also seem strange that not a single picture of
the Earth as seen from the Moon was made during the
expedition. Movements of the astronauts looked as if the film
was slowly played. It was obvious that jumping and moving was
very difficult for the astronauts, but the jumping amplitude was
very small. Even school children know that a man weighing 160
kilograms on the Earth would weight only 27 kg on the Moon,
which would made him jump like a grasshopper.

Raising of the American flag also revealed several faults. There
is no atmosphere on the Moon, it consequently means that there
can be no wind. As it was said, a flagpole had a horizontal slat
on the top so that it could be possible to unfurl the flag wide. It
looked rather strange that a corner of the flag fluttered and one
of the astronauts even had to pull it down. Probably, some
stupid worker in a film pavilion, where the documentary was
shot, opened the door and let the wind inside. In a word, there
were lots of strange things connected with the Mood landing
expedition that produced such a sensation all over the world.

Future life of the astronauts was also a mystery. Within a year
since the sensational expedition, 11 people connected with the
Apollo program died. 7 people died in car accidents and 3 burnt
down in test capsules although they were high-class pilots. Is it
possible that the people were liquidated because they wouldn't
keep the secret about the fake Moon expedition?

As the Northrop Grumman corporation, the one that developed
and constructed the Moon robot, told an American magazine that
all negatives and records concerning the event were liquidated.
It is rather strange, because we know that America treats its
achievements and the history with trepidation.

__________________
Here is an Excellent Picture from American Moon Expedition.
http://www.primeline-america.com/moon-ldg/
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http://www.theabyss.ru/foto/nastasya.jpg
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.1. to the UseNet idiots.. that kind of idiocy passed through the gene pool
is a marker for extinction..
.2. ..god seems to have a funny way of blessing things these days.. ..could
be a bad sense of perception on the part of ?-man though!
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I copied and pasted it.. so I must have read it!

Where are those WMDs?
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