On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:07:34 GMT, * <nospam@plz.com> wrote:

} On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:42:02 -0500, Doktor DynaSoar <targeting@OMCL.mil>
} wrote:
} 
} >On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:29:53 +0000 (UTC), Garry Bryan
} ><garry@soco.agilent.com> wrote:
} >
} >} The perfect conspiracy convinces you it *can't* exist. . .
} >} 
} >} Garry 
} >
} >Wrong. The perfect conspiracy operates in plain sight by first joining
} >with its target and then acting in such a way to discredit its target,
} >the only real witness to its activities: CoIntelPro.
} 
} True. but the cointell folks are banking on the rest of the populace being
} stupid, and they aren't.

Quite the opposite. They depend on them being smart. The stupid are no
danger and can be ignored; witness tabloid magazines. They want smart
people to believe them, in order to produce the dichotomy. If smart
people believe it, it must be true.

} And if intimidation, defamation and so forth don't work with the cointell
} operatives, then they'll try to psychologically manipulate.

Well, that's not really saying anything, because it's all
psychological manipulation, or more correctly psychological
operations.

You probably mean covert. Far more of that occurs than overt. In fact,
some overt ops are agitprop in that they'll be made to appear to have
been perpetrated by the other side.

} All of the above goes on in these newsgroups.

Oh my word yes. CoIntelPro was very common in the Native American
groups. Of course the seeds for that were planted by the FBI more that
20 years earlier.

} Disgusting really.

Every war is. And the true warriors find it so most. They'd rather not
have to but feel a duty. Sometimes that duty persists from training,
sometimes it develops when conscience demands examining prior acts.