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In article <00al20lsbtj5355c8q4scvrqgkatbip2g3@4ax.com>, David Patrick

says...

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 06:36:29 GMT, Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers
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You Don't Have To 'Believe' In UFOs Any Longer By James Neff
<webmaster@sightings.com>  5/28/00

Whenever I hear the question "do you believe in UFOs?" there often

arises an

instant feeling of frustration which quickly rolls over into fatigue and

a sense

of pity.

This post again, Flaffer?

God DARN you Patty.  If you disrupting this group with the
other truth-terrorists, you will be defined as a
enemy combatant!  And off Kamp X-Ray with you
and your Cult of Useful Iditos!! And not a moment too soon!

High Strangeness; Crash at Edwards AFB Contact Experiences:

I shall attempt to not "make a pest of myself" with e-mail, but I have a

request

of great sincerity to put forth. You may or may not have heard my stories

of

encounters with my "family from elsewhere" as a child, being beamed

through a

wall as my mother and brother watched (several times my mothers states). A
childhood filled with warm, wonderful pleasant memories of my visits with

my

"family from elsewhere." There is no hard copy proof...only my shared

memories

with my mother and the KNOWING. My awareness, knowledge and universal

awakening

continues. I am one with my family from elsewhere so there is nothing
sensational or outstanding about my relationship with them.

In the 1970s I encountered some "high strangeness" that is still in a

state of

confusion and so many missing pieces to the puzzle that from time to time

I

become near obsessed to finding the missing pieces and at last have some
answers. My concerns are for my own knowing. Human agenda is of
little concern to me. I am an observer of the human condition, learning,

trying

to understand, and so forth.

My request is simply that in your investigations, discussions, research

and

discoveries that should you come across anything in the 1970s that may or

may

not be near Edwards AFB that you include me in the findings. (share them

with

me)

I believe I read somewhere that a crashed ufo was taken to a place called
Papoose Lake
which is near area 51 but less known and supposedly well hidden from the
public.

In 1995 conscious and subconscious memories began to come to me in

flashbacks,

induced by a single hypnosis session in July 1996. More memories have

surfaced,

but still there lingers the bulk of the chronological picture. I remember

the

crash, three "ET" crewmen...two dead, one alive. I
remember being taken in handcuffs in a black limousine from the crash site

(by

military) I remember underground laboratories (1997) remember being taken

by the

brother of a friend to Edwards (somewhere between 1971-74), and much "high
strangeness" regarding visit(s) there or to some
other laboratory. I remember being on a bus back to my home in San

Francisco,

struggling to find my way back from the bus station...I remember "rape"

and

being in an ambulance--all involving military personnel. Most of the

events

center on 1971-1974 and then 1977-78) The dates are
fuzzy and I associate them with events in my life where the conscious

memories

and events that dovetail them occurred. I won't go into details at this

time.

Kevin Randle makes a short statement about a crash in 1971  (Summer) near
Edwards AFB with recovered craft. The report talks of a witness, Debby

Clayton

and someone taking pictures, a Dalton. They describe somewhat the craft. I

can

add to that...it was round...called "pod" they are indeed small ball-like
looking craft with three or four legs, not sure. They are mainly for

transport

purposes to and from the "mother ship." I was being taken back to earth

when

this happened. I am not sure what the purpose of my being on the ship was

or

why. In the hypnosis session the
therapist asked what I was wearing. I looked at my body, it was pink like

a

mannequin, it was confusing to me as I "woke" up out of the trance of

being "on

the ship" and suddenly being "awake" and seeing the crash...remembering my

ET

self and my Human self for the first time and
becoming quite confused.

When confronting Kevin Randle for possibility of more information he wrote

back

stating that the man who gathered material for his book "A History of UFO
Crashes" had died "two years ago" and he (Kevin) had no access to this

material

and didn't know how, or wouldn't, follow through with my request for more
information or for him to contact Debby Clayton so I might talk with

her...or at

least pass on the information of which I was looking. I have become

discouraged

and frustrated when so much attention is given to sightings, etc., and no

one

seems to be interested enough to follow through on this crash, which

obviously

has retrieved craft and three "ETs" - what happened to the crash, to the

crewmen

-- what happened to me? I have little memory but bits and pieces of being
blended or merged with a pink essence...a gel like substance that was a

species

that absorbed in the human body. I know this may sound outlandish to

you...but

nonetheless it is there and I have no reason to doubt it as so much prior

to and

since the crash leads me to believe that it actually makes a whole lot of

sense.

I also sense that I doubt the military were involved in this, but "other
humans" who are benevolent with what was happening to me and part of the

agenda

of my fellow crewmen. Please don't assume I am nuts with this story....I

am

not....of course, I know that if I told me my story ten years ago, I

probably

would have said, "Yah sure!" but as memories come back
there is much here that requires a sane mind to cope with all this high
strangeness. That is the military happened upon the crash because it was
indeed...a crash...and those working with the laboratory project were

present

but could not reveal their work and the military took me to a hanger
for interrogation, perhaps thinking I was just another witness, finished

with me

and put me on a bus for San Francisco. More visits to Edwards occurred,

but I

only have a fuzzy memory with a lot of this....I keep thinking it was the

Summer

of 1972, but the book states Summer of 1971.

I am only asking you "keep an eye open and an ear at the ready" should any

info

come up on this or if your research finds Debby Clayton or this Dalton. He

may

have film of this event that would prove very helpful to me in putting the
pieces of my puzzle together.

If you agree with this guy, then why not at least name the case you
think best proves alien contact. I'll not ask you to justify that
decision, as that seems to be beyond you.

But just name your best case for alien contact. You can manage that,
can't you?


David Patrick

its ridiculous to even assume that science has an answer for everything,
particularly anything
unexplained. If someone told a person living three hundred years ago that
they could watch what was happening on the other side of the world, sitting
in their living room and looking at a box with live broadcasts, they would
have been either thought nuts or burned at the stake. As probably would a
lot of todays scientists...........