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From: Peter Myers <myers@cyberone.com.au>

Andreas Von Buelow (former German Defense Minister) suggests CIA
Involvement in 9/11

Date: 12 Feb 2004 20:48:56 -0000 From: "atoyuma" <atoyuma@yahoo.com>

Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow

http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html

Please understand that this is a transcript made directly from a
live radio interview. It may not conform to exemplary standards of
grammar. Mr. Von Buelow's first language is German.

Alex Jones: All right my friends. We are already into the third and
final hour of this global transmission against tyranny. And, in the
last hour we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order and
of course father of Mel Gibson, on talking about the different key
issues. In this hour, we are joined by Andreas von Buelow and he
was the federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our
Secretary of Defense, been in the German government since the 70s.
And up until just a few years ago he was also the Minister of
Technology and he has written a book that according to Reuters is
the best seller in Germany that translates into `9/11 and the CIA.'
And he's not the only German minister who has said we are looking
at world fascism here and a powerful military industrial complex
institution engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission.
And, Andre von Buelow, err Andreas von Buelow, we are so honored
to have a man of your stature and obvious intelligence and your
courage on this show. Thank you for joining us.

Andreas von Buelow: Hello and it's wonderful speaking, yes.

AJ: Uh, we're going to break here in a few minutes and come back
in a longer segment but for those who just joined us, tell us a
little bit more about yourself and your book please.

AvB: Well I...I have spent over twenty-five years in politics and
now I am out. And in the end I was Minister of Technology before I
was Secretary of Defense. Then I had to deal in a commission on
East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany.
And this was very interesting inside story because of the Western
side doing deals violating the laws in Eastern Eur, err, East
Germany, European Community and the United States. It was always
two parts dealing with East and West and this bought me a lot of
insights in the secret service business.

AJ: And in fact I remember reading about the huge investigations
you did that was massive international headlines concerning the
Stasi and how different governments had actually been working with
these people. If you would like you are of course welcome to get
into that as well. Again folks, the equivalent secretary of defense,
minister of defense of Germany, and of course technology, the head
of that. Just absolutely amazing. Your best selling book, and I
wish there was an English translation because I would certainly buy
one.

My wife does read German. But please, tell us about your book.

AvB: Well I was writing another book and then 9/11 happened. And
it was strange to me watching- we all were horrified what was going
on and said well that's impossible, how could a crew of people
manage do such horrible things?

At the first hours, we didn't know who was it, then within hours
it came out that probably Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was behind
it. And then within two or three days these 19 people came out. And
my objection was- my looking at it- to whom does it bring good? And
I found out that it is rather damaging to the Islamic world and
perhaps it might be not only be a terrorist attack but perhaps it
might be a covert operation. I watched the scenery, what was going
on, what the American government-

AJ: Minister, minister, we've got to break; we'll be back in three
minutes.

Absolutely, we'll go into this in great detail. We are honored to
have you.

We're talking to Andreas von Buelow. We'll be back. (Fade to bumper
music)

(Commercial Break)

AJ: That's right my friends it's eight minutes ten seconds into
this 3rd hour of global transmission. I am so honored to have on
Andreas von Buelow, former German defense minister, head of their
defense department and of course until just a few years ago, head
of their technology system which is, that is a very high level post,
just as high level as defense minister there in Deutschland.

And he's written a best selling book and I've read some quotes out
of it that have been translated into English. And the title translated
is `911 and the CIA.' And he lays out the evidence of the military-
industrial complex carrying out the attacks. Also we have lined up
Michael Meecher. And he of course was the English environmental
minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud. He has written
articles saying that if they didn't carry it out, they certainly
funded and allowed them to take place. So, if you've got a brain,
it's clear, and Mr. von Buelow, very intelligent individual has
gone over this.

So, sir, you've said that on the day of the event you began to look
at it, you began to research it. And, from your specific expertise
in intelligence and military and technology, you know heading up
entire sectors of the world's third largest economy. Please discuss
for us your research and how you wrote the book and what really
happened on 9/11.

AvB: Err, 9/11, I just watched the scenery. And I said there must
have- gone something very [wrong]. I watched the TV for example and
in the same minute that the TV showed the planes driving into the
World Trade Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing.
And a few days later one could find out that this was fake. It was
made by a TV crew of the defense ministry in Israel and they gave
candies to the people and they laughed about it. And, nobody told
it. And the question for me was who brought this TV stuff right in
time into the national networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so
on. And then we look for the, the story came out that this had been
done by bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these 19 people of Muslim
background, which did this. And you could watch the Persian journalist,
and nobody showed up. Not one Arabic name was showing up there. And
then one is interested to see video because all these 19 passengers
must have passed the video, a lot of video cameras in Dallas, and
New York, and Logan in Boston, and Portland in the North. You don't
get this stuff. And then we're looking for the black boxes and we
don't get them. And the story how these, these World Trade Center
buildings broke down, they were constructed against an approach by
airplanes. And, the firemen of New York, they were able to come to
the floor where the fires were burning, and they said, the fire
commander said he needed two teams, small, to fight these fires and
then it's finished. So the heat, it is impossible that the heat was
as high as it has been written in the papers and in all the media.

AJ: And then, and then the feds declared that all firefighter tapes
malfunctioned, turns out that wasn't true; we've got copies of them.
And it did say that the firefighters said the fires were out or
almost out. There is video of people standing in the holes of the
buildings with no fire around them. And we're going to go over the
evidence that's in your book, sir, and why you came to these educated
conclusions.

AvB: Yeah.

AJ: But, first I want to ask you: have you heard the new developments,
the owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that
they blew Building Seven up. The forty-seven story building that
wasn't even hit by an aircraft. This just broke two weeks ago, have
you heard this?

AvB: Sure, I have heard this. I follow the whole scenery. Normally,
it's coming out in Germany, but it's coming out in your country.
It's a fascinating background to, to do research via Internet because
all this stuff is broadly spread over the Internet. So it's very
easy to follow, but in the main media you don't get to hear about
this.

AJ: Well tell you what, later this hour, it's only three minutes
of audio clips, we will air from the PBS documentary `America
Rebuilding,' where they admit they blew up WTC 7. Now, that's
important because they said that building fell from fire even though
it wasn't hit by a plane. And now, he slips up and says we decided
to demolish it on 9/11, but then the mainstream media just ignores
that. This is a public admission, sir.

AvB: Yeah, yeah especially that the CIA headquarters in New York
was in, was within this building. I think the- how do you call it-
the emergency center for the governor, the major, err, mayor was-

AJ: Mayor and governor.

AvB: -mayor was in this building. So, it was not hit by a plane,
and the fire was very low. And the surrounding steel constructions
were left over and didn't collapse. But, the Building 7 collapsed
in late afternoon at 5 o' clock I think.

AJ: Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attacks
sir, out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the evidence
in one fell swoop.

AvB: This is one theory, it might be. It's convincing but one has
to get the whole proof. But the problem is that the elements for
proof are destroyed.

AJ: Also- AvB: You will find them in Japanese cars and in ships of
the American Navy.

AJ: Also, sir, we have NORAD standing down for an hour and twenty
five minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off
course for fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes
by five F-16s so why did NORAD stand down?

AvB: Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 more
than 60 times. That, fighter[s] went up to clear what has been done
to airplanes that showed some irregularities. At 9/11, four planes
for two hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour
in the direction going toward the west and then turn around and
then come back. The military air force was not able to interdict
them. It's [un]imaginable. And the whole story is totally unclear
what happened between the Federal Aviation Agency (Administration)
and NORAD.

AJ: Absolutely, now I don't know if you've seen the Associated Press
but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Center
that day of flying jets into buildings in New York and DC. My
internal sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent
them have said on this show that they were told to stand down because
it was quote `just a drill.' That's how you get the good military
to stand down; you tell them it's just a drill. And, that drill was
going on at 8:30 in the morning. Is that not obvious, sir?

AvB: It's quite obvious, yeah. It's quite, it's so strange and the
most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a
white book which is documenting everything. If you are looking for
the timetable for example you have to make a medium between two or
three or five newspapers and radio and TV announcements. So everything
is unclear. On the other hand, the American government is running
as they call it a world war against possibly sixty nations without
really showing the background of 9/11. It's- for me, it's impossible.

AJ: Now by that they admit that nine of the nineteen hijackers, the
BBC says seven but it's nine, are still alive. Bin Laden has not
been convicted, bin Laden is known CIA, you've got [George H. W.]
Bush meeting with the head bin Laden that morning in DC at the Ritz
Carleton, you've got the General of Pakistan, the head of their
intelligence, meeting with the House and Senate chairs of the
intelligence committee at 8:30 that morning, his second trip in his
life to the United States. You've got the FBI paying for the houses,
the cars, the credit cards of the supposed hijackers. I mean, sir,
you start- you've got public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, Joint
Chiefs of Staff told not to fly to New York that day. That's all
admitted; what do you say to that?

AvB: Well, it's all admitted. So for me, since the official
version--it's not credible at all, it's totally incredible. The
second solution for me is a covert operation. And this is a way to
influence, to brainwash the American people into long, long, ongoing
conflict with the Muslim world and all that you get to, for example
the oil companies, the last oil reserves which we need for the next
decades before the oil age is going out. And probably behind this
is a geopolitical thinking that finally China has to be taken out.
China is too big and you have to be able to--this is put down in
the New American Century, which has been written by a lot of people
who are now in government like Cheney, like Rumsfeld and others.

AJ: And now, sir, we've got to break. We're going to get into the
Project for a New American Century and Operation Northwoods. Were
you aware of a US government plan to carry out 9/11 style attacks?

AvB: You mean, Northwoods?

AJ: Yes, sir.

AvB: Yeah sure I know.

AJ: Is that not a key piece of evidence?

AvB: Well, this is a key piece, a key piece of evidence of the
thinking of probably the military in dialogue with politics. Probably,
I think Kennedy decided not to do it but I think it was, it was all
of the-

AJ: Tell you what, stay there. We've got to break; we'll be right
back, folks.

(Fade to music)

(Commercial Break)

AJ: All right my friends, I'm Alex Jones your host. For the rest
of the hour we are honored to have Andreas von Buelow, former Defense
Secretary and former head of technology, Department of Technology
in Germany. And he's just gotten out of government a few years ago
and he's just written a best selling book '9/11 and the CIA' and
we have info on that at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

We will also be posting this interview on the Website in the next
few days as well. There are so many facets to this--Mr. von Buelow,
continuing with you waking up to what happened on 9/11 and researching
it, what are some of the other key points that clearly show that
it is impossible that these nineteen people did this; we know that
is a fraud. It is a conspiracy theory to say that they did it alone.

>From your intensive research and your understanding of high-level

government activities, what do you think really happened on 9/11?

AvB: Well, nobody can prove what happened 9/11 directly because it
has been a covert operation and you don't find proof; you will find
only indications.

And one of the indications--the indication that everything is right
with these nineteen people and Osama bin Laden is that the government
is free to show all the proof that is on the table that is on the
street that lays on the ground of the World Trade Center and so on
and so on. If you have a covert operation the probability is always
that the left-over pieces of proof are taken away immediately and
a lot of secrecy, a band of secrecy, has taken over everything.
And, this has happened with 9/11.

AJ: And that also happened--were you aware the New York Times and
Chicago Tribune reported this in '93?--the FBI cooked the bomb and
trained the driver[s] and had an Egyptian security agent doing it
for them, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the
truck and park it, let the bombing go forward. At Oklahoma City,
the same company that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade
Center, blew up the remnants of Oklahoma City [and] had that buried
under machine gun guard at a private landfill to this day. And they
hauled the rubble away from the W T C to China! They wouldn't let
you take photographs. Yes, exactly.

AvB: Yeah, then at the beginning the engineers weren't allowed to
go up to the steel truss [debris] and had a lot of problems- there
was very scarce money.

And you know, to clear up the story with Bill Clinton and Monica
Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out sixty million dollars,
I think it's seventy now, and they started out with 600,000 dollars
to try to figure out what happened on 9/11. And, they were taken
away from doing research and so on and so on and they are upset.
And, Fire Engineer Magazine said it was totally unbelievable what
happened with this examination of 9/11.

AJ: Well, they say it was a criminal cover-up and now, sir, we've
turned into a police state. They can secretly arrest citizens,
secretly execute us. They are building admitted prison camps all
over the country, this is in our news.

We're turning into something like the Soviet Union here.

AvB: Well, I can't comment on this but what's going on in Guantanamo
is like that. I think the problem is that if you put people, who
ever you like in Guantanamo in Cuba, you take them away for one or
two years without letting a lawyer to them, without showing them
what you are reprising to them, without having contact from their
family- they tell in all court processes what the FBI is wanting

>from them-

AJ: Well, sir-

AvB: And so you get fake evidence from these kinds of people, if
you behave like that.

AJ: And sir, sir. Our mainstream news says that torture is good and
they say they are torturing people, that's the Washington Post. Is
that a concern that our government now admits it's torturing?

AvB: Well, I'm informed- I don't know whether they are torturing,
keeping them is a kind of a torture, but I am told there is an
agreement with a lot of states to put these people to Egypt and
other states where torture is accepted and is done and you get the
final outcome of this torture and you can produce this in front of
German courts and American courts and try to bring about final
judgment.

AJ: Well that's it. We'll be back; long segment coming up and we'll
get more into your book. We're honored to have you, Andreas von
Buelow. Stay with us. (Fade)

(Commercial Break)

AJ: All right folks. We're talking with Andreas von Buelow and to
make this clear, up until about two years ago he was the head
minister over the Department of Technology and before that he was
the head of his party's group on defense. Now, we're going to take
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and I said what are some of the other key points that you would
like to go over. You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and the
Anthrax attacks. Please discuss it.

AvB: Well, the insider trading, everybody knows that there [was]
news about insider trading. I think altogether fifteen billion
dollars. And, there was speculation about going down, of United
Airlines and American Airlines; both airlines which were attacked
by 9/11 and other things. So, normally you could find out because
I think the American- the CIA together with the financial department,
the Treasury, they developed this - watching the markets to find
out speculation about going on terrorist attacks. So, they could
immediately find out if there were something going on- and they
could find out. And, in this case, they- 9/11- the NSA people which
are the guys watching via satellites the whole of the transactions
going on, on Earth, they said, they told the people to destroy the
tapes. They had tapes about this interior trading and they said
they had to destroy them so they are not any longer proof.

AJ: Now again, interior trading that's a good term for it, insider
trading.

So again, insider trading or interior trading going on here and
fifteen billion dollars, I think that's a low estimate. It came out
the first week, Germany reported on it, France reported on it, the
US, `we're going to catch them!' Record put options against United
and American; not against other airlines but specifically against
these and it leads back to the CIA and suddenly they destroy the
evidence. Again, again another smoking gun. Then, you get into
anthrax attacks; Bush on Cipro, the most weaponized anthrax ever
seen. Tell us about that.

AvB: Well, there the question just is who has the responsibility
for this!

You know, it overlaid the whole public debate of what was the
background and reason for 9/11 for weeks because these attacks were
going on for weeks and weeks and weeks. And, finally nothing came
out. We have no report on who was responsible, who did it and this
again is amazing. I think it belongs probably to the cover-up of
the psychological cover-up of the whole scenery. And then, the
vice-President and the President asking Congress not to go into too
much detail about the background of 9/11. What does this mean? And
until now it's what the President knew before 9/11 is a total secret.
I think there is no secret service around the world which gave no
hints to the American secret service community, the CIA, the DIA
and so on and so on. They did nothing out of it. The most disturbing
thing is that these guys that knew about something in coming up
9/11, were cut out before. I mean the local level of the FBI offices,
they knew quite a lot and they tried to force the central organization
to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools
and so on. And, the guy who decided on top, I think the second man
who was in the FBI he [said] `no we don't do this' and he got
promoted after 9/11.

AJ: By the way, the US embassies that allowed supposed Al-Qaeda
back in got record cash bonuses. The FBI agents who ordered other
FBI agents not to stop Al-Qaeda, they got bonuses. Bush signed W199I
months before 9/11 ordering FBI not to stop Al-Qaeda. They threatened
to arrest FBI Robert Wright if he tells us what he knows. I've
interviewed his lawyer David Schippers who knew about the attacks
beforehand. He went to Bush; Bush wouldn't talk to him, Ashcroft
wouldn't talk to him. And you said something very astute, sir, you
talked about the anthrax being a psychological cover-up of the
scenery. That is, all these questions coming out in the early days
about 9/11 got blacked out by the anthrax attacks and that's
absolutely why that happened. We've tracked that back to Fort
Detrick, Maryland. And they said it wasn't weaponized anthrax, it
turned out it was the most weaponized ever seen.

AvB: Yeah, that's absolutely correct and the wars which were reasoned
to be fights against terrorism, the war against Afghanistan to put
out the Taliban it was decided long before and I think in June
before 9/11. The Afghanistan government--no, the Pakistan government
and the Indian government [were] told there would be an intervention
in October.

AJ: Also, 44,000 US troops, 18,000 US troops were in Tajikistan and
Uzbekistan, Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days
before 9 11.

AvB: That's exact, that's exactly-

AJ: And sir, I want to digress back to torture for a minute because
you have been, you've impressed by, I mean you know so much about
this, you've researched it so well- On the torture issue, General
Rick Baucus quit Guantanamo because he quote 'refused to torture
the people there' and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington
Post that they fly them to foreign countries and then the CIA
tortures them themselves so they do admit the torture.

AvB: (Pause) Sure. I can't comment on this [but] it's obvious; all
the court proceedings against for example against Moussaui I think
it was the 20th nominally- it was supposed in each aircraft to have
five hijackers and this one was taken into prison by the FBI. I
think the process was made in Alexandria, Virginia and I think the
judge said that if you don't give the proof [of] these guys who are
running Al-Qaeda and give these people for cross-examination then
I can deliver a judgment. The same is true in Germany;

we have people who are related to Al-Qaeda-and probably Al-Qaeda
is an artificial, err, [de]nomination of-

AJ: CIA fiction.

AvB:- a ruse of elements of Islamic people. In Hamburg, the trials
are failing because the American government is not delivering the
proof.

AJ: Absolutely and look, we've had military officers and many others
on, it is clear that Al-Qaeda is a CIA creation. A foggy boogie man
so the military-industrial complex can carry out attacks and then
pin it on them and I mean we know when bin Laden blows up a building
supposedly, our government pays his family to rebuild it.

AvB: Yeah.

AJ: I mean there's the payoff right out in the open.

AvB: Yeah, the whole background of- the whole personalities like
bin Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these
are all figures that were handled by the CIA in former times. So
probably they are recycled in the system now as bad guys. Before,
they were the good guys taking away the Russians out of Afghanistan
and dealing with this, getting money for this, getting paid for
this now they are used as bad guys. Osama bin Laden has been, in
'95, in the Balkans in an operation the Americans were with the UKG
in Albania. You find these guys all over; you find these guys in
Chechnya for example. They are also `former Afghanis' as they are
called and they are [driven] in loaded planes of the CIA for example.

AJ: Absolutely so they provide the crisis so Big Brother could
provide the police state solution. Andreas von Buelow it is clear
that if we do not expose at least who stands to gain from this
terror and who was involved in it, that is the large financial
interests that own our government, they are going to be able to use
America as the engine of quote imperial mobilization and world
domination. As Zbigniew Brzezinski and the PNAC documents said, how
important is it to expose this for the future of free humanity?

AvB: I think it's, for everybody outside of the United States it's
extremely important because it's a question of whether democracy
will survive and whether the state of law is kept up or we'll be
driven by public relations and financial interest. And I think the
main thing for the Americans is who pays for all this. Because, if
the oil companies get more cheap oil and make their money out of
it, the American taxpayer has to pay for the military machine.

The oil companies aren't paying for that. It's not the military-industrial
complex paying for that, it is the American taxpayer so it's extremely
important.

AJ: Absolutely and now we are paying record amounts for fuel for
petrol in this country while they have record supplies and the oil
companies are posting record profits. I want to get into W T C 7
because I want people to hear these clips. These are from the PBS
documentary, and this will just take a minute sir, and then I want
to get your comment on it, where they describe how Building 7 fell
and how they removed it first because quote `nobody died in it.'
It's the owner, Larry Silverstein who pulled it, gave the order to
demolish it on the afternoon of September 11th, so, Mark, go ahead
and hit that clip for us please.

PBS Documentary (narrator): World Trade Center 7 had always been
considered the starting point for rebuilding. Located north of the
slurry wall, Building 7 had been cleared faster than the rest of
the site. There had been no bodies to recover. Pelted by debris
when the North Tower collapsed, Seven burned into the late afternoon
allowing occupants to evacuate to safety.

PBS Documentary (Silverstein): I remember getting a call from the,
err, Fire Department commander telling me that they were not sure
they would be able to contain the fire. I thought we had such
terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do was, was pull
it, and they made the decision to pull and we watched the building
collapse.

AJ: We made the decision to pull, and we watched the building
collapse. Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses and
this is what Dan Rather had to say and then we'll get von Buelow's
comment.

(Voice of Dan Rather): What you are seeing are high shots, now here
we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Now we
go to videotape of the collapse of this building. (Associate- `it's
amazing') Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time
today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much
on television before when a building was destroyed by well-placed
dynamite to knock it down.

AJ: Now, again, the seismographs show multiple explosions, the
firefighters were told to get back. Von Buelow, how important is
this piece of evidence?

AvB: The explosions, well the government has to explain it! They
have to prove their case. They have to this conspiracy theory that
these nineteen Muslims under the direction of Osama bin Laden. It's
not my business; it's only if there are explosions, if it's true,
can it be that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these
huge buildings in a manner that they are collapsing in a

AJ: Symmetrical.

AvB:

free-fall in a very short- in a few seconds, that they broke together.

It's nearly impossible. So everything that is on the table is telling
that the government story is not true. And there must be another
story and it must be explosions and the spikes in geological
institutions in five states, 2.2 on the Richter scale, you have to
find out what's the background. And five or seven days later the
temperature on the ground was five hundred degrees, or a little bit
more than 450, if just fires were-

AJ: We've got to break. We'll be right back.

(Commercial Break)

AJ: We're talking with Andreas von Buelow. Former minister at the
highest levels of the German government. Former Technology Minister.
And I know we have a lot of callers but we only have time to take
maybe one or two, Dan in Oklahoma. I just want to commend Andreas
von Buelow for writing this book 9/11 and the CIA and I would hope
a publisher would get a hold of it and translate it and publish it
here because I would definitely carry it. You can find information
on the book for those who read and speak German at Infowars.com and
PrisonPlanet.com. Andreas von Buelow let's take a call, let's talk
to Dan in Oklahoma. Dan, you're on the air go ahead.

Dan: Yes, thanks Alex. Mr. von Buelow my question is following this
disaster of 9/11, I understand Germany, France, and Russia and why
they didn't want to get involved because of the money they had
invested with Iraq. With the military-industrial complex like it
is, what do you understand the New World Order to be especially
since they said they could use this event to-

AJ: Yes, who are, who are the forces behind government-sponsored
terror?

AvB: Who are the forces behind government? I do not understand this.

AJ: Well we know this global government is forming. We know that
powerful financial interests are engineering terror attacks, who
are the forces behind the military-industrial complex?

AvB: Well, it's always interesting. If you look at who owns the
munitions factory in the East-West conflict or the Near-East conflict,
they are always trying to sell their material to both sides. And,
they are always interested in conflict and they would like after
the breakdown of the Soviet Union, the noble thing would be to cut
down this military-industrial complex, which costs the American
taxpayer a huge amount of money. Exactly the same time the Soviet
Union breaks down, this new terror thing comes up. The first terrorist
attacks were I think the World Trade Center one and you find out
the leading guy of this bombing, this time an agricultural bomb,
he was going immediately to FBI and saying `I'll tell you everything
about this' and they agreed finally twenty-four hours before the
attack in 1993, they would change the powder, the dangerous powder
against the [non] dangerous powder and the FBI didn't come up to
do this so-

AJ: Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers and that's
another patsy.

AvB:-people were [injured] and six people were dead. In Oklahoma
you had nearly the same thing. You had two attacks. One was perhaps
McVeigh and this other guy but there was another attack much more
strong than this agricultural bomb and there is an American general,
an Air Force general who for I think ten years or fifteen years in
charge of this explosive institute and he said never could this
agrarian bomb bring about such damage. There must be something else
and they found that within the building there were demolition
charges.

AJ: Absolutely, Dan, thanks for the call. I hope we can get you on
in the future again, Andreas von Buelow, you've been so kind. You
have such amazing courage to stand up and tell the truth and we've
been honored to have you on the show from Germany. God bless you.

AvB: Thank you.

AJ: Thank you very much and have a good evening.