"Rick Sobie" <ricksobie@spamnotshaw.ca> wrote in message
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Though Terrence searched all his life, he never so much as found any
evidence of God or angels or anything he could see as a higher power.
His brother as well.

So what is my point?

What often happens in the scientific world, that peer pressure causes them
to dismiss out of hand, anything to do with religion, or spirituality,
when in fact, the only true study of consciousness has been done
in this way.

So immediately, right out of the gate, people such as Terrence,
go forth on their quest to find answers to the unknown,
with two hands tied behind their back, or as this reference
referrs to, like a person, whose arms had atrophied, from lack
of use.

So allow me to go just a bit further into this for those who know
about the ancient roots of Catholicism. I have netioned before
that it had Shamanic roots, and that sacred drums played a part,
and that it was religion that was often used to bring a native
culture into a civilized culture. From Gods and Goddesses,
of nature, which may have animal characteristics. The reason
for the animal characteristics would be to relate qualities of
character, to a people, who had few references of intelligent
behaviour in their world other than themselves and the animals.

So things from their environment were used to explain or
identify things which were unknown, and to put them into context,
and allow for a degree of communication with a higher power.

Then a further development of that, would then be the concept of
a God or Gods or Goddesses, as being humanistic, yet
with power or intelligence or abilities that would be advanced
or at least above their level of understanding.

So yes, actually Catholicism is an ancient religion whose roots come
from a place not of this earth. But it is a religion for man, and
deals with God as a humanistic entity and angels also as
humanistic entities. And other than the creator himself, who
defies a label such as that, they are human in form and
desin, as the human form, is today, still the highest design that
the creator made. The Gods and Goddesses may take on a form
that has no atoms, and be pure consciousness, but they still
see themselves as having human form, and relate to people
in human form as well. Although a scientific minded person
would have a difficult time believing this. That is not to say
that an orb, might not be also a representation of something
religious or spiritual, but it would not be the person, but
merely a symbol, or a sign.

Today, and in the more advanced races in the cosmos, Catholicism,
is still quite popular. It is not only shamanic, but also deals
with an undertsanding of the creator and one high God.

Although in truth, it does not exclude the lesser Gods. And
Wando Li, a man of about 34 years old, and who looks sort of
Spanish/Portugese/Italian only much more ancient, as you'could see in his
eyes. He has deep eyes. He is the leader, the God of the Catholic
religion in the cosmos.

And is also part of the greater whole, himself being seen as yet
another individual expression, of the Supreme. The one God.

So if someone made contact with Wando or someone like him,
they might assume he was a Marian or something. Maybe even
a Martian scientist. But what he is, is a leader of a race of
people, who are very ancient, and the spirit in these people,
like others, lives on, reincarnating through time.

Wando himself, being an immortal. And changing if took on human
form and reincarnated, but still returning to himself
when finished with that life, and if you saw him in a vision,
or any form of communication, he would look like himself.
Because that is the self image he maintains, just as each of us,
have our own self image, which does not always match our
physical appearance while we are alive. But that self image,
is the image we maintain over time, and in that way, we
retain our relationships and can recognize each other,
even when sometimes our names might change, or we might even
forget each other's names.

When I saw Wando Li in a vision a couple years ago, he was
standing there smiling at me. I said to myself, "Oh my God!
That's Wando Li, the leader of Mars."

I don't even know where the memories came from. Obviously
my distant past. But I knew him immediately, as I have known
him almost all my during the life of my spirit.

Why Mars I don't know. I do know though, he is the leader of the
Catholics.

Was he at one time the leader of Mars when Mars was inhabited,
or was I just making reference automatically to the fact that
Catholic scientists often call themselves Martian scientists?

I am not sure.

Red is the Catholic color, and red, is the color associated with Mars,
so maybe there is connection there somewhere.

If I can find out or remember any more information I will let you know.

My immediate first impression when I saw him was that he lived
on Mars once and the leader of the people there and they were
Catholics.
That is all I know.