You have got to be kidding! You want me to destroy the rock to prove
what the component is. Skeptics would just love that - destroy any
hard evidence of the existence of aliens or of a lost advanced
civilization. Have you ever heard of X-Rays?

The photos clearly show the component, and I have clearly and
comprehensively described it. If it is modern manmade, someone would
have identified it by now, 6+ months after posting it worldwide on the
Net and registering it with Google, Altavista, etc, and after it has
appeared worldwide as a cover story for UFO Magazine.

ONE of my theories is that the component fell or pressed into the rock
when it was in a molten state (NOT my only theory). I do not know what
the pins or base are made of, but only described them as being made of
a metal-like and ceramic- or rock-like materials. Even if actually
metal and ceramic, they could be new types of materials never known to
be used on earth before. Until their composition can be clearly
determined, no one can intelligently state what their melting points
are. On my webpage, I have provided a simple process in which one can
obtain from me samples of the rock and component to analyze.

If you make a clear statement that no matter what material the
component is made of - known or unknown to modern man - it would have
melted if placed in molten granite, and you are professionally
qualified to make such a statement, I can accept that. Else, in the
absence of any such clear statement, everyone should assume that you
believe there could be materials that could withstand molten granite,
and remain visibly unchanged.

Again, for clear photos and descriptions of my rock with embedded
manmade-like component, please visit:

www.tsc-global.com/rock.htm

If you are terrified that my rock is probably a genuine artifact from
aliens or a lost advanced civilization, please just admit it, instead
of resorting to efforts to get me to destroy my rock to fuel your
denial.

John Williams


Doktor DynaSoar <targeting@OMCL.mil> wrote in message news:<als930trsnvhnbc07ltaahq0os7jbe9fer@4ax.com>...

I'm not talking about wear. I'm talking about the fact that the
temperature required to create granite, that is, a mixture of molten
quartz, feldspar, olivine, etc., would melt any metal or ceramic. The
object would exist as an amorphous blob, not as a clearly structured
item.

There's no way anyone can ID it with it still in the rock. It could be
anything. 

Take it out.

On 18 Feb 2004 21:39:24 -0800, wizguru@tsc-global.com (John J.
Williams) wrote:

} Referring to my webpage at:
} 
} www.tsc-global.com/rock.htm
} 
} I stated that the prongs appear to be worn as they are much rounded
} off at their ends. I do not know what material the prongs are made of.
} If the prongs are made of a very hard metal, they will wear much less
} than the rock around them. I have a steel hand pick that I have used
} for decades to cut through hard rock. While my hand pick has busted
} and pulverized about a ton of rock over the years, including granite,
} it is still in good condition with not a lot of wear. Since the base
} material of the manmade-like connector is of rock or some ceramic like
} material, it probably is capable of withstanding tremendous heat. The
} connector-like component could have been accidentally dropped into the
} rock when it was still in a molten state by an alien or member of a
} lost advanced civilization many millions of years ago. If the
} component is modern manmade, certainly someone should have by now
} identified it my its make and model/part #. Can you?
} 
} Thanks, John Williams
} 
} 
} Doktor DynaSoar <targeting@OMCL.mil> wrote in message news:<q7a430hnkve9jclc0lne051mhhodm3h6h7@4ax.com>...
} > If the rock is granite, as you say, there's no way the metal pins
} > could have survived the temperature and pressure. Read up on what it
} > takes to create an igneous rock.
} > 
} > It was embedded into the rock at some time after the rock's creation. 
} > 
} > On 16 Feb 2004 16:23:22 -0800, wizguru@tsc-global.com (John J.
} > Williams) wrote:
} > 
} > } Several years ago, I found a granite rock with an embedded modern
} > } manmade-like connector-like component. My rock is featured in the Feb.
} > } 2004 issue of UFO Magazine, and also I've been told in an upcoming
} > } Spring edition of Fortean Times (in Letters section). Don't miss
} > } either article. This media exposure has provided quite a bit of
} > } excitement.
} > } 
} > } However, without further evaluation, I do not yet know with certainty
} > } whether my rock is of UFO or lost advanced civilization origin, or
} > } whether the embedded component is modern manmade and for some
} > } unexplained fluke or reason ended up embedded in my rock. If my rock
} > } is indeed a genuine artifact of UFO or advanced civilization origin,
} > } then it should be able to tell us much about their technology; and my
} > } rock may also be the hard evidence that skeptics have been screaming
} > } about for decades that proves the existence of UFOs or lost advanced
} > } civilizations.
} > } 
} > } The webpage below shows clear photos of my rock, plus much descriptive
} > } material about it. Please visit it:
} > } 
} > } www.tsc-global.com/rock.htm
} > } 
} > } I am looking for the following contributions:
} > }     (1) Professional independent evaluations of my rock. There is some
} > } urgency in doing this because unless and until my rock is determined
} > } to be a genuine artifact, I will not go through the substantial time
} > } and expense to take particular actions to obtain and preserve the site
} > } where I found it, which risks degradation due to human exposure. All
} > } the help I can get from everyone to speed this process along might
} > } make a real difference.
} > }     (2) For those who believe that my rock's component is modern
} > } manmade, I am interested in anyone who can identify the make and
} > } part/model number of its embedded component.
} > }     (3) If you have also witnessed or possessed any rock, petrified
} > } wood, prehistoric amber, fossil, coal, meteorite, etc with an embedded
} > } modern manmade-like component, I am very interested in comparing notes
} > } with you. Years ago, a spark-plug like component was discovered
} > } embedded in a geode (Olancha, CA, Feb., 1961).
} > } 
} > } If you or anyone else you know of can freely provide these
} > } contributions, please do so. These requested contributions are
} > } described in detail on the above webpage.
} > } 
} > } Thanks. Please respond. John J. Williams, wizguru@tsc-global.com