Fine, don't break the rock. Take it to the department of Earth and
Planetary Sciences at University of New Mexico. I see you're right
there. They have one of the finest geo-research facilities in the
country. They can image it six ways from Sunday, yank on the object to
see if it pulls free, and test it if it doesn't to see what's holding
it in. This guy can tell you who can best help you; he runs the place:
Leslie D. McFadden Professor, Ph.D., University of Arizona, 1982.
Office: Northrop Hall Rm. 141 or 216; 277-1641 or 277-6121.

To identify the object, arrange to have this guy on hand. As the head
of Electrical Engineering, if he can't ID it, he can find someone who
will:
Christos Christodoulou
PhD, North Carolina State University
(505) 277-6580  ECE Bldg Rm. 125e

Now you've got two highly qualified professional contact to help you
figure that thing out. 

There's one reason for you not to do so. My money says you won't, and
that you'll try to make up reasons why. I'm sure the magazine would be
interested in hearing you refused.


On 21 Feb 2004 19:05:11 -0800, wizguru@tsc-global.com (John J.
Williams) wrote:

} You have got to be kidding! You want me to destroy the rock to prove
} what the component is. Skeptics would just love that - destroy any
} hard evidence of the existence of aliens or of a lost advanced
} civilization. Have you ever heard of X-Rays?
} 
} The photos clearly show the component, and I have clearly and
} comprehensively described it. If it is modern manmade, someone would
} have identified it by now, 6+ months after posting it worldwide on the
} Net and registering it with Google, Altavista, etc, and after it has
} appeared worldwide as a cover story for UFO Magazine.
} 
} ONE of my theories is that the component fell or pressed into the rock
} when it was in a molten state (NOT my only theory). I do not know what
} the pins or base are made of, but only described them as being made of
} a metal-like and ceramic- or rock-like materials. Even if actually
} metal and ceramic, they could be new types of materials never known to
} be used on earth before. Until their composition can be clearly
} determined, no one can intelligently state what their melting points
} are. On my webpage, I have provided a simple process in which one can
} obtain from me samples of the rock and component to analyze.
} 
} If you make a clear statement that no matter what material the
} component is made of - known or unknown to modern man - it would have
} melted if placed in molten granite, and you are professionally
} qualified to make such a statement, I can accept that. Else, in the
} absence of any such clear statement, everyone should assume that you
} believe there could be materials that could withstand molten granite,
} and remain visibly unchanged.
} 
} Again, for clear photos and descriptions of my rock with embedded
} manmade-like component, please visit:
} 
} www.tsc-global.com/rock.htm
} 
} If you are terrified that my rock is probably a genuine artifact from
} aliens or a lost advanced civilization, please just admit it, instead
} of resorting to efforts to get me to destroy my rock to fuel your
} denial.
} 
} John Williams
} 
} 
} Doktor DynaSoar <targeting@OMCL.mil> wrote in message news:<als930trsnvhnbc07ltaahq0os7jbe9fer@4ax.com>...
} > I'm not talking about wear. I'm talking about the fact that the
} > temperature required to create granite, that is, a mixture of molten
} > quartz, feldspar, olivine, etc., would melt any metal or ceramic. The
} > object would exist as an amorphous blob, not as a clearly structured
} > item.
} > 
} > There's no way anyone can ID it with it still in the rock. It could be
} > anything. 
} > 
} > Take it out.
} > 
} > On 18 Feb 2004 21:39:24 -0800, wizguru@tsc-global.com (John J.
} > Williams) wrote:
} > 
} > } Referring to my webpage at:
} > } 
} > } www.tsc-global.com/rock.htm
} > } 
} > } I stated that the prongs appear to be worn as they are much rounded
} > } off at their ends. I do not know what material the prongs are made of.
} > } If the prongs are made of a very hard metal, they will wear much less
} > } than the rock around them. I have a steel hand pick that I have used
} > } for decades to cut through hard rock. While my hand pick has busted
} > } and pulverized about a ton of rock over the years, including granite,
} > } it is still in good condition with not a lot of wear. Since the base
} > } material of the manmade-like connector is of rock or some ceramic like
} > } material, it probably is capable of withstanding tremendous heat. The
} > } connector-like component could have been accidentally dropped into the
} > } rock when it was still in a molten state by an alien or member of a
} > } lost advanced civilization many millions of years ago. If the
} > } component is modern manmade, certainly someone should have by now
} > } identified it my its make and model/part #. Can you?
} > } 
} > } Thanks, John Williams
} > } 
} > } 
} > } Doktor DynaSoar <targeting@OMCL.mil> wrote in message news:<q7a430hnkve9jclc0lne051mhhodm3h6h7@4ax.com>...
} > } > If the rock is granite, as you say, there's no way the metal pins
} > } > could have survived the temperature and pressure. Read up on what it
} > } > takes to create an igneous rock.
} > } > 
} > } > It was embedded into the rock at some time after the rock's creation. 
} > } > 
} > } > On 16 Feb 2004 16:23:22 -0800, wizguru@tsc-global.com (John J.
} > } > Williams) wrote:
} > } > 
} > } > } Several years ago, I found a granite rock with an embedded modern
} > } > } manmade-like connector-like component. My rock is featured in the Feb.
} > } > } 2004 issue of UFO Magazine, and also I've been told in an upcoming
} > } > } Spring edition of Fortean Times (in Letters section). Don't miss
} > } > } either article. This media exposure has provided quite a bit of
} > } > } excitement.
} > } > } 
} > } > } However, without further evaluation, I do not yet know with certainty
} > } > } whether my rock is of UFO or lost advanced civilization origin, or
} > } > } whether the embedded component is modern manmade and for some
} > } > } unexplained fluke or reason ended up embedded in my rock. If my rock
} > } > } is indeed a genuine artifact of UFO or advanced civilization origin,
} > } > } then it should be able to tell us much about their technology; and my
} > } > } rock may also be the hard evidence that skeptics have been screaming
} > } > } about for decades that proves the existence of UFOs or lost advanced
} > } > } civilizations.
} > } > } 
} > } > } The webpage below shows clear photos of my rock, plus much descriptive
} > } > } material about it. Please visit it:
} > } > } 
} > } > } www.tsc-global.com/rock.htm
} > } > } 
} > } > } I am looking for the following contributions:
} > } > }     (1) Professional independent evaluations of my rock. There is some
} > } > } urgency in doing this because unless and until my rock is determined
} > } > } to be a genuine artifact, I will not go through the substantial time
} > } > } and expense to take particular actions to obtain and preserve the site
} > } > } where I found it, which risks degradation due to human exposure. All
} > } > } the help I can get from everyone to speed this process along might
} > } > } make a real difference.
} > } > }     (2) For those who believe that my rock's component is modern
} > } > } manmade, I am interested in anyone who can identify the make and
} > } > } part/model number of its embedded component.
} > } > }     (3) If you have also witnessed or possessed any rock, petrified
} > } > } wood, prehistoric amber, fossil, coal, meteorite, etc with an embedded
} > } > } modern manmade-like component, I am very interested in comparing notes
} > } > } with you. Years ago, a spark-plug like component was discovered
} > } > } embedded in a geode (Olancha, CA, Feb., 1961).
} > } > } 
} > } > } If you or anyone else you know of can freely provide these
} > } > } contributions, please do so. These requested contributions are
} > } > } described in detail on the above webpage.
} > } > } 
} > } > } Thanks. Please respond. John J. Williams, wizguru@tsc-global.com