"tim gueguen" <tgueguen@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers �.S.�." <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in
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What level of proof is adequate proof, then?

SF: I talk in terms of evidence. The legal profession recognizes certain
standards: in a civil court, "preponderance of the evidence;" in a

criminal

court, "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Which are not appropriate concepts for scientific questions.  One only has
to consider the people convicted of child abuse in the '80s and early '90s
on the basis of very questionable testimony to see cases where the courts
handled extraordinary claims poorly.

I think there is, right now, quite
sufficient evidence.

Nope.

Given the physical trace cases,

None of which have proven to be the incontrovertable result of non
terrestrial craft.

the radar sightings,

Radar returns are not a particularly strong form of evidence.

the
photographs

None of which have been conclusively proven to be of non terrestrial
vehicles.

and the eye-witness testimony from people all over the world,

Which is the weakest form of evidence without other corroboration.

we
have quite sufficient evidence to conclude that our planet is being

visited by

manufactured objects behaving in ways that we Earthlings cannot yet

duplicate,

and that therefore were produced someplace else.

No we don't.

well we could always find out by just shooting one down. If it was domestic,
it would be their fault for not registering their flight plans.But then it
could also be produced by a foreign country i.e. spy planes . If they were
not produced 'somewhere else' then they must be government controlled.
Illegaly flying without proper authorization. Everyone knows the stealth
bombers cannot be radar detected. For all you know it could be a foreign spy
plane with similar technogy or even better technology. Not necessarily
little green men. Obviously if the airforce sends planes to investigate and
THEY cannot identify it then there is a serious gap in the so called
'security' that should be addressed. You can't just have unidentified
objects flying all over the place without at least attempting to investigate
them or shooting them down.