On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:45:38 GMT, "Rick Sobie"
<ricksobie@spamnotshaw.ca> wrote:

} 
} "Doktor DynaSoar" <targeting@OMCL.mil> wrote in message
} news:0mvn30t7ma8371m00bi0u0as1bhmm34nh9@4ax.com...
} > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:54:42 GMT, "Rick Sobie"
} > <ricksobie@spamnotshaw.ca> wrote:
} > If it were 5 miles thick, it would have to be so dense that it massed
} > the equivalent of 1086 mile radius of solid rock. It would have to be
} > over 200 times denser than basalt. There is nothing like that.
} >
} > If there were, and you built a sphere out of it, it would collapse.
} 
} 4 or 5 miles of dirt and rock, and several miles of solid titanium alloy.

5 miles of rock and 5 miles of titanium would still require something
else that was 99% the mass of the moon.

} This would be a god opportunity for some genius to do the math.

If you could understand it you'd have done it yourself by now and
realized how ridiculous your statements were.

} How thick would the titanium need to be, to withstand an impact,
} which resulted in a crater 2,200 km in diameter, and an average of 10km
} deep, keeping in mind that 4 or 5 iles of that depth, would be the dirt
} layer, and the reaminder, titanium alloy, resulting in an internal dent of about
} 1 mile.

Doesn't matter. The moon has a known amount of mass. It must be made
of something that carries that mass. 100 miles of titanium isn't
enough.

} >
} > From Wikipedia: "Geophysicists expert in impact dynamics are convinced
} > that a normal impact could not have produced the basin without digging
} > up vast amounts of mantle materials, but observations thus far have
} > been highly inconclusive about whether there is any mantle material
} > present at all. This suggests that the basin was not formed by a
} > typical high-velocity impact, but may instead have been formed by a
} > low-velocity projectile that hit at a low angle (about 30 degrees or
} > less), and hence did not dig very deeply into the Moon. Such a
} > glancing impact would have sent much of the resulting debris back into
} > space surrounding the Moon and Earth, which may have provided a source
} > of projectiles to make other lunar basins, many of which may have been
} > made in a narrow time interval between 3.85 and 3.95 billion years
} > ago."
} >
} 
} This glancing blow can be seen in Ica stones of Peru, and that is a possible theory,

If you're rowing your canoe down Main Street and one of the tires
falls off, how many pancakes does it take to cover a dog house?

Try to stick to the subject. I'll let you flop around like a crippled
minnow when we're done.

} still if someone is good at math, and engineering perhaps they could calculate
} the question I posed above wrt the necessary thickness needed to withstand
} the impact, and result in a dent 1 mile high in the interior.
} 
} Since no mantle material is present, this is even more curious, but what
} IS the composition then of the center of the Aitken Basin? Is it titanium rich
} material?

It is RELATIVELY titanium rich. It has a few more parts per million
than the few parts per million in other lunar soil. That means the
object that hit it had more titanium (very, very little) than the moon
did (hardly any). 

} And speaking of Wikipedia, you might look up Dyson Sphere,
} and you will find the signature of a Dyson Sphere is consistent,
} with the infrared signature as shown in this Naval Space Command link
} from the Clementine images of Tycho crater, where the hull was exposed
} by what looks like two projectiles as can be seen in the large tif
} file, left image center of crater, when you zoom in.
} 
} Here is the Dyson Sphere link... (A metal phere containing a dwarf star.)
} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

Right. You know that link to the IR signature of a Dyson sphere, so I
can compare it with the IR image of Tycho at:

} Here is the image showing the infrared signature.
} http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/clem_collect/tycho.html

Well, it's imaginary. There isn't one.

} Here is a closeup hi res image showing the unusual polygon/pentagon structure.
} http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/select_img/hires.html

It's a rock.

} And here is the center of Tycho crater showing what appears to be,
} the exposed titanium alloy hull, with 2 embedded projectiles.
} http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/TheTimelineofEvents_files/image040.jpg

It's a fuzzy conglomerate of blobs which don't appear to be anything.

} And finally here is the Ica stone link, showing the glancing blow to Aitken
} Basin
} http://www.labyrinthina.com/ica.htm  (scroll down middle of page)

That's all crap. The Nazca stones are all Hopi. Any elder at Hotevilla
can read them. 

} Also, seeing as how the center of gravioty is several kilometers closer to
} the earth side, and the thickest part of the crust is on the opposite
} side would not it wobble?

The whole moon would, if it were hollow. But it doesn't. Because it's
not hollow.

[Remainder of meds deficient rambling truncated]