"Rick Sobie" <ricksobie@spamnotshaw.ca> wrote in message news:vlb%b.620030$ts4.418043@pd7tw3no...

"Tim Davis" <numatic@flash.net> wrote in message

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:33:20 GMT, "Rick Sobie"
<ricksobie@spamnotshaw.ca> wrote:

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This occured most notably in November 1969 after seismometers were set up on the
moons surface by the astronauts of Apollo XII. When the Lunar module had taken off,
heading back to earth the astronauts discarded the ascent stage of the lunar module,
dropping it on the moons surface, smashing the craft and creating a tremor that was
picked up by the seismometers and when the NASA scientists heard the data stream,
they couldn't believe what they were hearing. The moon was ringing like a bell and
continued to do so for around an hour.

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Maybe it was determined the moon has a hollow sphere of one kind of
material surrounding a solid core of some other.
I'd be interested in seeing data such as the frequency of the ringing,
and/or a waveform or such.
So long as whatever the moon is composed of is elastic enough, even a
consistently solid moon would have a ring to it, kind of like a
billiard ball.  If the moon was filled with a liquid, it would have a
ring to it of some sort but would be quite different in frequency,
etc. kind of like that of a suspended drop of water, only it would be
gravity not surface tension determining the charactaristics.

Well Tim, even before Apollo, A leading scientist at NASA, Dr. Gordon McDonald published a report

in

the Astronautics Magazine, July 1962. In it he stated that, according to an analysis of the Moon�s
motion, it appears that the Moon is hollow .   John Glen later said said that their best guess

based

on its characteristics, was that it was hollow.
Then they did the seismic with Apollo XII and arrived at that conclusion.
Then they did it again with another Apollo mission (not sure which) and
same result.

Then they ran into something strange, some say they were warned off, and
never spoke of it again.

The most recent data shows that it may have a very small core.

That would be the dying white dwarf star inside of it. It is a Dyson Sphere.

It is a very interesting story and you can follow it somewhat, by going back to
the 1930's when some contact, either from the future or perhaps from the moon
itself took place.

Shortly after that, a man wrote a book called Star Maker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Maker

Perhaps he was a contactee or perhaps through the collective unconscious
while dreaming he found out from someone who was contacted, at any rate
he came up with the idea from somewhere, and then later physicist Freeman
Dyson, after reading this book, came up with the idea of the Dyson Sphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

At that same time, many things were taking place. The Roswell incident,
and an influx of people into America who were like Americans, but
were different. There were no other archtypes on the earth which resembled
these people, and many of them seemed to gravitate to Hollywood,
and sci-fi thrived, and comedy thrived, and technology advanced
in leaps and bounds. They appear to have come from the moon.
Believe it or not.

At any rate, along with them, came many mysteries of the cosmos,
and you can read about type II and type III civilizations here,
http://www.mkaku.org/articles/physics_of_alien_civs.shtml

Dr. Michio Kaku, describes what it might be like to contact
a type II or type III civilization and describes the Dyson Sphere
as well.

Now a type II civilization, is who used to own the moonship.
And they were the precursors to the Catholics. They looked
like Portugese or Italian only with deeper dark eyes.

It was captured by a type III civilization. These are the Rosicrucian types.
Responsible for all that Masnoic and Illuminati and even cosmic consciousness
to a degree. Their symbolism includes the pyramid and eye of God and claim
to be connected to ancient Egypt and all that.

Type III civilizations are immortals. The current occupants are type III.
By immortal that might also include reincarnation I suppose.

Oddly enough, they have been influencing the earth for thousands
of years, and what you see today in the way of civilization,
largely came from there.

In fact many people here are their descendants nad many people here
know that.

The problem however, is that they run the earth, like a ship.
They have a Republican leader, and Democratic leader.
Who take turns governing. That governing system came
to earth and created the US and that system is still in place.
But it is the "earth is big ship" mentality as opposed to the earth
is a garden philosophy. And that is why industry and the work
week, and military control, and control of information and
finance and all those controls exist here.

Because they are running the earth, from there as a big ship.

Seems odd I know, but that is just the way it is.

Probably we wouldn't know at all, except lately the leader of the
republican military wing of moon command, has told us that the white
dwarf star inside the Dyson sphere, is about to become a black dwarf
star and the power unit is reaching the end of its life cycle.
At least that is what he appears to be telling us, although he is
somewhat vague about it, he is also somewhat persistent about it as well.

But other civilizations above type III know about it also, and what amazes
me, is that no form of intervention is taking place. For instance from
civilizations in this solar system and elsewhere who are above type III
civililization, and could assist. The current occupants cannot affect repairs
themselves it would seem.

And no one appears to be rushing to their aid. At least none that I can see.
I see people talking about it, but no one seems to be doing anything about
it at all.
So if nothing is done, when it does turn into a black dwarf, the orbit
will begin to degrade and it will impact the earth. The masscons, are stabilizaers
which work similar to electro-gravitics by generating a graviational field
and require power to do so.

Here is another interesting bit of trivia for people in the know...
The universal government, is a type IX civilization.

And that is where the phrase "cloud nine" comes from.

And if you do a search for the origin of the phrase,
this is what you find, again, from that same era.

The phrase to be on cloud nine, meaning that one was blissfully happy, started life in the United
States and has been widely known there since the 1950s; it's since spread worldwide. It's said to
have been popularised by the Johnny Dollar radio show of that period, in which every time the hero
was knocked unconscious he was transported to Cloud Nine...

http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-clo1.htm

And where did the MIB come from?

http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/maninblack.htm

And I want my disk back. :-)

if you are interested in hearing the voice of a couple of these moon occupants,
in the Republican guard so to speak, you can listen to

Steve or Robert who called into Art Bell.

One thing about this ship menatlity, they just cannot come right out with
the truth. The always seem to need to speak in riddles and they lie alot.

But you can hear from Steve's voice that he was very concerned in 1997
when he called in.

He said, that first off, there would be more of he same, you know dribbling
of information, (Brookings Report and the slow aclimatizing of the masses et al)
then there are some who want to just put all the cards on the table
and he was not in favor of doing that.
But he said there was going to be some, how did he put it, _extreme_
revelations soon. I suppose the white dwarf turning black may just be it.

If you are interested, you can listen to them with Kazaa Lite.
Art Bell - Steve - MIB-TimeTraveler - (09-11-97).mp3 11,197 KB
and Robert calls in at the beginning of this show.
Art Bell - David Anderson - Time Travel [1of1].mp3 186,177 KB

It is all quite unbelieveable, unless you really take an objective look at
the moon, and the Apollo missions, and the whole UFO phenomena.

On the earth, in the public eye, this is a type 0 civilization. There is probably
some advanced tech retrieved at Groom Lake. Corso said there
was and many many others such as those from www.disclosure.org
Reputable scientists and military people and astronauts are on the record.

But the Type III who has control of the moon, they are incapable of
dealing with the situation. And unless help arrives from elsewhere,
then the show will soon be over, for the most part. There may be
some noninterference policy at work as well, I don't know.

All I can suggest is that if anyone needs to make peace with anyone,
or if they feel the need to kiss their ass goodbye, this might be a good
time to do so, as who knows if you will get an opportunity later.

Myself, I came here, with a flying disk, and I was murdered.

So I am not the best one to put forth much help. I am immortal, so
I don't really care about the whole murder thing. But my disk,
man that really pisses me off.