Subject: Re: The Hollow Moon
From: "Rick Sobie" <ricksobie@spamnotshaw.ca>
Date: 29/02/2004, 03:40
Newsgroups: sci.astro,alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo

Sorry Chris, I have just been arguing this point and then the cows came home,
and I find myself still arguing this silly point. So I am going to just let it go.

If there is a problem with the moon, and if the dwarf star inside of it,
has failed now, as the interior is now in complete and utter darkness
as far as I know, and yes, there are people just like you and me,
who are or least were still inhabiting that interiror terraformed space,
last week, then they are now in complete darkness. No sun, no moon, and
no stars, and not that they had a sun moon and stars, they merely had
a single dwarf star, like a Dyson Sphere.

And since the interior is now pitch black, the possibility that the engine
rooms will run out of battery power at any time is a real possibility.
Its prbit may begin to degrade and that would be a bad thing.

But even if they do not run completely out of power immediately,
and can sustain orbit for some time, the people in the interior are
without power now. And I don't see as there is a whole lot we down here
can do about it.

You might say well who cares, and who are they anyways. They are your
relatives. Typical folk, on the same developmental level as earth. Same
technology, same time frame, paralell development.

The paralell universe,  paralell worlds thing. That is them.

So I would rather not discuss this further at this time.

Thanks.


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Planetary Physics 101:
Magnetospheres have NOTHING (I repeat NOTHING) to do with Gravity.

Now who said it did?

You said rather cryptically "But it does not, and hence, no magnetosphere."
If you would like to venture another meaning behind this sentence then it
may help your case.

Absolutely not one thing.  They are two completely and utterly different
concepts.  That's like comparing an ocean to an atmosphere.
Gravity is the force exerted by all mass on all other mass.

You don't know squat about gravity, and thats a fact Jack.

Well if YOU say so.

A Magnetosphere is a protective magnetic shield formed around a large
planet
(and only ones with a large metallic core, such as Earth), which both
contains electrically charged upper-atmospheric particles, and repels
dangerous ions that stream out from the sun in the form of Solar Wind.

You make it sound like shields from Star Trek or something.

A mind can only comprehend something to the limits of that mind's ability.
Hebrews described an luminous object that followed them from Egypt during
Exodus as a "Pillar of Flame by night and a Cloud by day" because they had
no idea what in fact it was.

Go to a dandy little site called www.google.com and enter
"magnetosphere"
and check out the top three sites.  You may want to do that before
replying.

No one but you is on about the magnetosphere as being a gravitational
field.

Uhuh.

The Moon DOES rotate.  It rotates at precisely 1 revolution on its axis
per
orbit of the earth; hence we always see the same side.

With respect to a reference frame that includes the sun. Physics 0 is more
like
what you are describing here.

If we include the sun as a reference point, then yes it changes things
slightly.
It means that the moon rotates at exactly the same rate as the earth in
comparison to the sun.
But your statement "if a moon is applying a force on the earth and dragging
the tides, as the moon rotates, then an equal force should be applied to the
moon, making it spin on its
planetary axis" still does not make sense.

If you were to pretend that you were hovering miles above the earth moon
system
looking down on them, then the moon would appear to be rotating.

Now ask yourself, what are you doing looking at the frame of reference
from
miles above the earth and moon?

Is there a point in here somewhere?

You are forming the age old argument that there is no dark side of the
moon.

You mean when I say "If it didn't rotate at all, then observers on earth
would see a constantly changing side of the moon, and there would be no
concept called the "dark side" of the moon."?
Perhaps it was the word "no" that confused you?
I am clearly saying that there IS a concept of the "dark side" of the moon,
and I've never ever heard of an "age old argument" that there is no dark
side... wtf are you on?

Yes we know that. Originally it was meant in the same vein as "The darkest
Africa"

Meaning dark as in not explored.  The far side of the moon is a better
term.

Thanks mate. *blinkblink*

However, imagine yourself, standing on the north pole of the moon,
facing earth, and you will see, that the moon does not spin, on its
*planetary* axis. If it did, you would not always be facing the earth.
Duh.

Oh.
My.
God.

If it didn't rotate
at all, then observers on earth would see a constantly changing side of
the
moon, and there would be no concept called the "dark side" of the moon.
Not
a hard concept to grasp.  I think they teach that in grade 2 or 3 now.

And you have believed that line of bs without using your own brain at all,
which only serves to prove that people will believe anything at all they
hear from authority, regardless of how ludicrous or innane.

Rick, I am not going to argue with you about whether the sky is blue or not.

And finally, the moon's rotation has absolutely nothing to do with
tides,
it's the moon's GRAVITY that drags the tides.

Then why does the earth not excert an equal and opposit effect on the
moon,
causing it to spin, on its _planetary axis.

How does the moon cause Earth to spin on it's axis?
How would the Earth making the Moon spin on it's axis be an equal and
opposite effect to tides?

You see I am exposing your hypnotic suggestion and mental blocking
and like the zombies of doom themselves, you will not be able to see
that you are in fact wrong, and what you have been told is false,
and we can talk all day, but you will not see, because you have a
mental block.

You're one of those guys that wear foil hats, aint you?

If the moon was spinning at
18rpm the tides would be no different than they are now.  Of course the
moon
would explode, and we'd all be made extinct as the pieces came crashing
back
to earth, and then we'd have no moon and no tides at all, but that's not
the
point.

If the moon were hollow then a LOOOOONG time ago someone would have
calculated that based on it's diameter and its gravity it had a density
of
something like styrofoam.  And that would have raised some very serious
questions long before today.


And in 1962 it was suggested by a Nasa physicist that indeed the moon is
hollow,
and repeated by John Glen in 1965, and then seismic testing by Apollo XII
confirmed it and not only that, but it has been known to be hollow
since the time of the ancient Hindu writings.

Why then is it not part of popular science?
Why have most never heard of it before this thread?

Hope that helped.

It just helps to show others, how people can have nemtal blocks installed
which allow them to be easily manipulated, and they will never even know,
just like people on stage will bark like a dog or cluck like a chicken
and not even know that either.

<<snap!>>  <<snap!>> snap out of it!
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm

People on a stage are being paid and/or under immense public pressure to
bark and cluck.
They are not being hypnotised by these conmen any more than you are being
hypnotised by scientific fact.

Toodles.

- CSGD