Subject: Re: When Lies & Coverups Destroy Reality: The Extraterrestrial Saucer At Groom Lake, Extraterrestrial Disclosure Would Cost Bechtel and Lockheed Billions of Dollars in Defense Money
From: "CM" <CM@CM.not.really>
Date: 18/06/2004, 00:10
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.ufo.reports,alt.alien.research,uk.rec.ufo,sci.skeptic

For someone who claims there's a big pile of evidence,
you are doing an amazing job of not presenting any evidence.

Facts don't need evidence, they're already proven, dumb ass.

But the claims you have presented have NOT been proven to us,

*I* don't have to prove anything to you dumb ass,

Of course not, but if you don't prove anything then we are free to
conclude that your unbelievable tale is likely just a figment from an
overheated imagination. If you want us to accept the "Groom Lake
Saucer" as "fact", you must present the proof.

if you had the faintest clue that logically and by common sense
the extraterrestrial saucer at Groom Lake stands alone as
PROOF OF ITSELF.

OK, present the saucer. We're waiting with baited breath (or is that
yawns).

And all you're doing is publicly denying it just like Bechtel,
Lockheed and the Pentagon have been doing for years -- because
they're PROFITING financially by keeping a lid on public
knowledge about it.

Bechtel makes money constructing buildings, roads, bridges, dams and
other large structures. Lockheed makes money designing and
constructing advanced aircraft.

I'd really like to know HOW they could possibly make any money on
keeping a secret saucer. Extortion? Nah, nobody would be embarassed
enough by a saucer to pay hush money. Defense contracts? Nah, Congress
won't pay out for defense against an apparently non-existant threat.

If Bechtel/Lockheed could show vivid proof of a possible ET threat,
then the big bucks would come rolling in, so, logically, if they had a
ET saucer they would *want* everyone to know about the potential ET
threat!

There are a lot of things I'd be willing to keep secret if it meant
big bucks! Unfortunately, the real world doesn't work that way.

And also hiding massive corruption, graft and greed.

If they had "massive corruption, graft and greed" they would try to
hide their bookkeeping. Why would revealing an ET saucer reveal ANY
corruption/graft/greed? (Unless they were hiding the books in the
saucer... )

They have a lot to lose financially by making a public disclosure.

They would have a LOT more to gain financially by revealing a possible
ET threat! Big Defense Bucks against the (possibly) Evil ET Empire!

And I still don't see any possible way they would "lose financially"
by a public disclosure. Can you give us a hint?

CM