Subject: Re: Sour Grapes
From: "Black Helicopter Pilot" <mindcontroller@militaryindustrialcomplex.org>
Date: 20/06/2004, 23:57
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.ufo.reports,alt.alien.research,uk.rec.ufo,alt.ufo,sci.skeptic

It's no fair that the most strident UFO believers all have severe mental
problems.

"Crotalidae" <splif@splif.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:11:17 -0700, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_bob42@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"lll" <spam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:28:21 -0600, "C.R. Osterwald" <rio@dev.null>
wrote:

Addition to the list of terms Alexa uses but doesn't understand:

Carl, that's certainly non relevant to your continual sore ass for
Wolfowitz.

Did he hurt you and make you mean?

"I was so scared we was goin' away without ya and we'd
never see each other again...Did they hurt ya, son? Did
they hurt ya and make ya mean mad?...Sometimes they do
somethin' to ya. They hurt ya and ya get mad and then ya
get mean. Then they hurt ya again and ya get meaner and
meaner til you ain't no boy nor man anymore, just a walkin'
chunk of mean mad. Did they hurt ya that way son?...Why,
I don't want no mean son."


12 June 2003


Rumsfeld Warns Belgium Over Human Rights Lawsuits

Defense Secretary calls lawsuits against U.S. officials "absurd"

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned Belgium June 12 that the United
States would hold up money to build a new NATO headquarters complex in
Brussels and might restrict travel by senior U.S. military and civilian
officials to NATO meetings unless Belgium changes its law permitting
spurious claims of human rights violations to be brought against U.S.
officials.

"It's perfectly possible to meet elsewhere, but what will happen, I just
don't know. All I'm doing is stating the problem." Rumsfeld said during a
briefing at NATO headquarters. NATO defense ministers held two days of
meetings in Brussels to discuss the transformation of NATO's military
forces, command and control structures, and strategic doctrine. The
54-year-old security alliance is planning to spend approximately $351
million to build and open a new headquarters by the end of the current
decade.

Rumsfeld's response to Belgium's law covering universal human rights
crimes
comes after lawsuits have been filed in Belgian courts charging Vice
President Dick Cheney, Army General Tommy Franks, Secretary of State Colin
Powell, former Army General Norman Schwarzkopf, former President George
Bush, and U.S. Marine Colonel Brian McCoy with human rights crimes.

"By passing this law, Belgium has turned its legal system into a platform
for divisive politicized lawsuits against her NATO allies," Rumsfeld said.
"The suits are absurd."

"The United States rejects the presumed authority of Belgian courts to try
General Franks, [Marine] Colonel McCoy, Vice President Cheney, Secretary
Powell and General Schwarzkopf, as well as former President Bush."

Rumsfeld charged that "if the civilian and military leaders of member
states
can not come to Belgium without fear of harassment by Belgian courts
entertaining spurious charges by politicized prosecutors, then it calls
into
question Belgium's attitude about its responsibilities as a host nation
for
NATO and Allied forces."

Rumsfeld also discussed continued combat operations in Iraq, the ongoing
search for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, a Spanish decision to send
its
troops to the Polish sector of Iraq, and the overall political health of
the
NATO alliance.

Following is the transcript of Rumsfeld's briefing:


Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld at NATO Headquarters
Brussels, Belgium
June 12, 2003
United States Department of Defense
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
June 12, 2003