I won't knock you if you want to try them.  It's your body to abuse as you
see fit.  If you do something stupid (like crash your car) while your
judgement is impared from the drugs effects, try to not take out any
innocent by-standers.

If you had bothered to read the prior post, you might have noticed how it
seemed to condone and encourage the use of drugs for "spiritual insight and
personal revelation".

My rant is against encouragement of others to participate.... if you make a
choice, be aware the consequences may cost you more than you are willing to
pay.

I've seen my relatives lives shattered.  Contrary to your statement that it
"would have happened if they had been into drugs or not",  real doctors,
that have been to medical school, would disagree with your diagnosis Dr.
Feelgood.

You just keep right on partying .... plenty of rooms at that sanitarium
.....









"Courage" <I.am@home.org> wrote in message
news:40dd45c2$4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...

God,

you sound like the old " Know you dope fiend" police briefs from the early
60's

" You will know a dope fiend by dried semon around his pants from

constantly

jacking off when he can not find a rape victum"


Look if you take acid you run your chances, I won't argue that ..  but it

is

fun. Have you tried it ? or are you just repeating brainwashed bullshit ?

As for your statements about XTC .. pfft . Clueless and niave.

" to the kids who heed

the call to Ecstasy and suffer brain damage or death from the elevated

body

temperatures that accompany "the trip".

"
Its actually dancing that causes the heat not the drug it's self.

But you know about what you preach because you've tried XTC right ? .. you
wouldn't want to have an opinion on something you have never experienced
right ?

Lets see .. the average teenager girl more chance of 1) Getting  toxic

shock

and dieing 2) Dieing because of XTC

Meh .. whatever ..

XTC and ACID won't kill you, its what you do on them that may - but

because

it is an illgeal drug cos its alll sooooo non taxable and cheap no one is
lookign out for the kids. Help the kids test their stuff, how many lives
would it save if people could actually determan the quality levels of

drugs

openly instead of in back alleys.

As for you family - It happens and if would have happened if they had been
into drugs or not.... now they are on other mind altering drugs .. better
get them off them to.


"FranticInFresno" <MostWanted@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eVsBc.6349$eC3.2613@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...

On the flip side are the people who have an adverse reaction to
hallucinogenic drugs.  From the people who experience a "bad trip" in

the

form of some terrifying emotionally scarring nightmare, to the kids who

heed

the call to Ecstasy and suffer brain damage or death from the elevated

body

temperatures that accompany "the trip".

Street drugs have no QC, the dosage strengths can vary WIDELY.  It is

better

to remain rooted in reality and explore your imagination with books and
education rather than endanger your health and future on something a
backyard chemist "cooked" up......

I have a brother-in-law that was a senior in law school when he decided

to

experimented with X.  Now he's in a locked facility living on

disability.

My own sister was a RN working in and living the good life in Hawaii...
until drugs pushed her into chemically induced paranoid/schizophrenia,

she's

now institutionalized.  These people gambled with drugs and lost bright
futures.  A cost most "experimenters" don't calculate until it's too

late

to

get back.

"Positive potential of mind-altering drugs?"  Maybe in a highly

structured

religious format (Carlos Castaneda) .... but anyone who thinks "nirvana"

can

be attained through recreational drug use is self-deluded.

Been there, seen the carnage.......





"Crotalidae" <splif@splif.com> wrote in message
news:n1dcd05brd7i3bjpgq79l625jrn27dgart@4ax.com...

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:32:10 +0200, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
<gregoriy_raspoutine_NOSPAM_@hotmail.com> wrote:

Booooooooozeee!!!!

Awaking the spirits within.


Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell

by Aldous Huxley

In the first half of the book, DOORS OF PERCEPTION, originally a

separate

volume, Huxley offers a cogent and erudite argument for the use
hallucinogens (specifically, mescaline) as a means for opening up the
thinking mind to new ideas and perceptions, or even as a method for

jump

starting human creativity in common people.

Not only does he offer compelling historical precedents and sound

medical

research, but he also reveals positive details about his own personal
experimentation with the drug. As is always the case with Huxley's

essays,

his various hypotheses are very articulately expressed and not easily
dismissed.

The second part of the book, HEAVEN AND HELL, also originally

published

separately, Huxley introduces the idea that spiritual insight and

personal

revelation can also be achieved through the use of hallucinogens.

While just as articulately written and researched as the first volume,

the

idea that religious insight can be gained through drugs may offend

some

readers. Thought-provoking reading for both professionals and amateurs
interested in the positive potential of mind-altering drugs.