The_Sage wrote:

Reply to article by: Todd Lemire <tlemire@nospam.com>
Date written: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:29:23 -0400
MsgID:<7p6dnTKd09DzgJHcRVn-pQ@comcast.com>

The recently acquired 14 CD ROM - CIA STARGATE Remote Viewing Government document collection is now available for purchase. Details can be found here:

http://www.michiganufos.com/stargate.html

Why would anyone want to view the results of a failed experiment? The remote
viewing (RV) experiment was a complete flop since the whole entire goal of the
RV program was to see if RV had "any utility for intelligence collection" (AN
EVALUATION OF REMOTE VIEWING: RESEARCH AND APPLICATIONS, by Michael D Mumford,
Andrew M. Rose, and David A. Goslin, pg E4-5). In 22 years of study, it had (and
still has) no utility whatsoever and was "unpromising"...

   "As mandated by Congress, CIA is reviewing available information and past    research programs concerning parapsychological phenomena, mainly 'Remote    Viewing' to determine whether they might have any utility for intelligence    collection. - CIA sponsored research on this subject in the 1970s -- At that    time, the program, always considered speculative and controversial, was    determined to be unpromising" (CIA STATEMENT ON 'REMOTE VIEWING', by the CIA    Public Affairs Office, 6 September 1995)

And no wonder it was so unpromising, as the the experiment was completely
flawed: their 'data' was determined to be sloppy, vague, and supported only by
alot of wishful thinking, therefore it could prove nor disprove anything
factually...

   "It is unclear whether the observed effects can unambiguously be attributed    to the paranormal ability of the remote viewers as opposed to characteristics
   of the judges or of the target or some other characteristic of the methods    was used. Use of the same remote viewers, the same judge, and the same target
   photographs makes it impossible to identify their independent effects" (AN    EVALUATION OF REMOTE VIEWING: RESERACH AND APPLICATIONS by M. D. Mumford, A.    M. Rose and D. Goslin, published by AMERICAN INSTITUTES FOR RESEARCH, pg E3)

  "The information provided was inconsistent, inaccurate with regard to    specifics, and required substantial subjective interpretation" (AN EVALUATION
   OF REMOTE VIEWING: RESERACH AND APPLICATIONS by M. D. Mumford, A. M. Rose and
   D. Goslin, published by AMERICAN INSTITUTES FOR RESEARCH, pg E4)

   "In no case had the information provided ever been used to guide intelligence
   operations" (AN EVALUATION OF REMOTE VIEWING: RESERACH AND APPLICATIONS by M.
   D. Mumford, A. M. Rose and D. Goslin, published by AMERICAN INSTITUTES FOR    RESEARCH, pg E4)

The Sage

"Your Sageness"

You obviously were very biased by the biased reports you mention above.  With your lack of objectiveness and your rather quick judgment about these government documents and the included opinions of the agents involved, some of which I know you've never seen, speaks for itself.  You're ignorant of the details of this operation, plain and simple.  You are obviously not well read in the subject as you only quote 3 authors.  Have you read any documentation from the government sources themselves or the remote viewers?

Todd Lemire