Subject: Re: BOOK DOCUMENTS MILITARY "ALIEN" ABDUCTIONS//DEBUNKERS AGREE THIS TIME
From: Garry Bryan
Date: 11/08/2004, 16:18
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.fucknozzles

In alt.alien.visitors Michael Davis <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: Notorious net kook and utter ignoramus Garrrry "Always Wrong" 
: Bryan wrote:

:  > In alt.alien.visitors Michael Davis <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
:   > : Notorious net kook and utter ignoramus Garrrry "Always Wrong"
:  > : Bryan wrote:
:   >
:  > :> In alt.alien.visitors Michael Davis <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> 
: wrote:
:   > :> : Notorious net kook and utter ignoramus Garrrry "Always 
: Wrong"
:  > :> : Bryan wrote:
:   > :>
:  > :> :> There was no information regarding the 9/11 plot found on 
: any of the computer
:   > :> :> discs and hard drives they recovered during the latest 
: Pakistan arrest. . .
:   > :>
:  > :> : And you know this how, kook?
:   > :>
:  > :> They certainly didn't report that they had found intel 
: related to the Twin
:   > :> Towers
:   >
:  > : Are you claiming you are somehow privy to everything 
: recovered? So
:  > : you went down to CIA Headquarters and got yourself a high-level,
:  > : personal briefing, did you? I have always known you were
:  > : delusional, Garrrrrry, but you just seem to be getting more and
:  > : more out of touch with reality as time goes on.
:   >
:  > Blah blah blah, your opinions mean nothing. . .

: Keep telling yourself that.

It's true. . .

:  >
:  > :> which they would parade out to "prove" Al Qeada was behind 
: the plot. . .
:   >
:  > : Um, that was proven beyond any doubt long ago, kook. Have you
:  > : forgotten that Bin Laden himself has admitted to it on several
:  > : occasions? Exactly how much more proof do you need, kook? Found
:  > : those puddles of molten steel yet?
:   >
:  > The pools of molten steel were reported by Mark Loizeaux of 
: Controlled
:  > Demolition. He will tell you

: He will? Have you confirmed this? I would have confirmed it before 
: making a fool of myself. Kooks like you though just like to charge 
: on ahead and "Damn the torpedoes" of truth that tend to come in 
: from all directions and blow you out of the water.

Yep, email him if you like, just like I did. . .
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=5

Three emails that can get in contact with him. . .

:  > about the workers reports.

: So assuming for a moment Mark Loizeaux actually did make that 
: claim, then he must have got his information second or third hand 
: at best. So actually the supposed credibility of Mark Loizeaux 
: lends nothing to the credibility of the story, now does it?

But it isn't made from whole cloth. . .there is a chain of reporting . . .

:  > There are probably
:   > photos of it

: Oh yeah, but no doubt the evil conspiracy has suppressed them, right?

I just don't have access to the photo archives, the ones you claimed were the 
most extensive of any demolition activity. . .without proof. . .

:  > since you claimed this was the most photographed clean up in
:  > history. Rag on him about the reports.

: Why would I rag on him? He's not the one making an ass of himself 
: here. You are.

Sure gets your attention, doesn't it, oh Complusive One. . .

:  > and as far as bin Laden:
:   > 
: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_410936.html?menu=news.latestheadlines

: Ananova???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

: Oh that's real credible. A story that doesn't cite any sources 
: appearing on a tabloid web shite is the best you can do? So the 
: translations of those videos that appeared on Al Jazeera where he 
: claimed responsibility were all wrong? Sorry, kook, but it came 
: right out of the horse's own mouth in the world-wide media. This 
: feeble attempt of yours to perpetuate your kooky fantasy that the 
: US government itself was somehow behind 9/11 ain't gonna fly. Wake 
: up and smell the reality already, kook.

Yopu claim "it came right out of the horses mouth", so do *you* understand 
Arabic? Did you actually hear Osama make the claim or did you depend on a 
second and third hand report to make your mid up? Seems you are just as
intellectually challenged as you accuse others of being. . .counting on the 
CIA to not put a spin on a blurry video of someone who resembles Osama and 
the sound was so muddy that whole sections could not be made out. . .

: --- Drivel snip ---

:  >
:  >
:  >
:  > :> just wait for the report to come out. . .
:   >
:  > : You mean like how you *couldn't wait* and started making kooky
:  > : pronouncements about what was or wasn't found, despite the fact
:  > : that actually you have no clue?
:   >
:  > What do you know about what I have or don't have? Wild 
: speculation on your part.

: Experience, Garrrrrrry. I know from long experience that you have 
: no clue about anything, and are just talking out of your ass as 
: always.

Looks that way to someone who only sees asses. . .

:  >
:  > : or ask the FBI. . .
:   >
:  > : Ask them what? Whether you are a kook? I'm sure they already 
: know
:  > : that. It would be interesting to do an FOIA request and see what
:  > : sort of file they have on you. That Picture of you and your 
: "Pump
:  > : Room Gang" alone would have been enough to get you on their 
: radar
:  > : back in the J. Edgar Hoover era.
:   >
:  > Thread fade has begun. . .

: Speaking of fading. What ever happened to your promise to fade 
: away into the sunset in a boat with that mule you married? What 
: happened to the great "happily ever after" you claimed was gonna 
: happen after Agilent downsized your lazy, worthless, ass?

Funny how little you pay attention. . .

:  >
:  > :> but you never do
:   > :> your own work, just nay-say. . .
:   >
:  > : Hypocrisy noted, kook. Where is the work to back up your nutty
:  > : claims, any of them?
:   >
:  > Why the fuck

: A little melty today, Garrrrrry?

No, and you?

:  > do I need to prove anything to you?

: Because that's the way it works. You make a claim, you back it up, 
: otherwise you aren't worthy of being believed. I've only been 
: trying to get that through your thick skull for about five years 
: now. I guess you just can't teach old kooks new tricks.

Sure, you taught me that nothing is good enough for you as evidence unless it
comes from a source that you have determined is acceptable to you and if they
oppose your viewpoint then they made a mistake. . .

:  > You have been given evidence
:   > before regarding many things

: Yes, as opposed to you.

Huh? 

:  > and you just refuse to accept it.

: Why would anyone accept anything you say? You've never been right 
: about anything.

it's not about accepting me, but the sources and reports that are presented to
you for review, moron. . .

:  > Why should now
:   > bw any different. You still don't think that the flag that 
: draped on Saddam's
:   > toppled statue had flown over the Pentagon,

: Revisionist history noted, kook. You originally claimed that flag 
: was the one flying over The Pentagon on the day it was attacked, 
: not that it was just one of the thousands of flags run up the pole 
: for a little while then hauled down and sold to tourists. Either 
: way, the claim remains unproven.

I never made the claim, I just posted the report and your attempts to discredit
it were BS. 

:  > even when I gave you the name of
:   > the marine and his fathers address to write to and get the 
: story. . .

: Translation: You want others to research your claims for you.

No, I want you to look at the proof. . .turns out that the whole thing was 
staged and you bought the initial story that the army just came upon the Iraqis
trying to pull it down but it was the Army that started to pull it down and 
gathered the crowd for a photo op:
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Toppling_the_statue_of_Saddam_Hussein

So who was the more gullible? I was doubting the report and researching it, you
just supported the status qou. . .real nice debunking there, sport. . .

http://www.alternet.org/story/15656

Here is the Laconia article about the MArine and the flag. . .you can even 
write to his father and ask him about the flag. . .

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/891611/posts

I successfully found his address and wrote to him, I'm sure you could as well
but you hate being proven wrong. . .



:  > you are
:  > intellectually lazy. . .

: Look who's talking! You are beyond intellectually lazy, Garrrrry. 
: You are incapable of even thinking for yourself. You have your 
: every thought spoon fed to you by the liberal lunatic fringe, and 
: accept them all unquestioningly no matter how absurd they are, 
: rather than even try think for yourself. No wonder you call 
: yourself a Deadhead. You really are dead between the ears.

Nice meltdown, Mikey. . .funny coming from someone who has to have everything
validated by sources he has predetermined to be acceptable. . .

Garry