Reply to article by: Your Name Here=Harvey <you@somewhere.not.aus>
Date written: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:30:28 +1300
MsgID:<Ges9d.11134$JQ4.723582@news.xtra.co.nz>

I have nothing against solid evidence for proving something 'unidentified'
is 'identified' - such as the case of the object being conventional but
seen from an unusual angle (aircraft) or of meteors (being of straight line
uniform motion), etc.

It is the chicken or the egg siutation, which came first?
Skeptics can have roundabout logic (and orthodox thinkers) which say -
that it can't be real because there's no proof (solid, concrete evidence)
overlooking strong cases in which there is something 'strange' indeed going
on...
Orthodox thinkers not accepting unorthodox views because it doesn't fit into
their frame of 'accepted' ideas and beliefs.

It doesn't matter. What matters is if there is any legitimate scientifically
valid evidence for any of the 10,000 or so UFO cases that allegedly occur every
year for the about the last 50 years? So far the answer is absolutely not. There
is just an overwhelming amount of data that indicates the phenomenon is not real
and never has been real, only imaginary.

Every case has to be taken on a case by case basis. Very often the evidence
speaks for itself --- a wacky claim is wacky.
eg. the case of woman living in a rural area, sayiing a UFO landed nearby
and the occupant offered a cracker to her, in return for her providing
water for it.
It could be genuine (although it sounds very wacky) as well as being
a false claim/hoax. You would have to look at the person closely to determine
if the person is normal and not making such claims all the time...

It is illogical to examine the person instead of examining her environment for
corroborating evidence. It doesn't matter how credible the person is, if there
is no corroborating evidence then their testimony is just as valid as a known
liar's would be.

Not everything you are told, is the truth. eg. the government will tell
you anything, some things not being true at all.
Everyone knows about politics - in which people appear to be truthful,
but will say anything to put themselves in a good light.

The public has been lied to, many times over. Whether it be religion
(which was a prominant powerbase in previous times) or government (Iraq
is fast turning into another Vietnam - in which it is being seen, that the
USA should not be there at all).
A lot of promises made by Judiasm, Christianity and Islam are false,
and the same with promises from government(s).
They do however like to maintain an air of authority and respectability
and are part of the establishment, as other establishments also like to
maintain their power and control too.

The moral of the story is, don't get your science from the government but from
scientists.

The Sage

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