Subject: Re: WHO TAKES "Pete Charest" SERIOUSLY?
From: The_Sage
Date: 26/10/2004, 03:54
Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.ufo,alt.alien

Reply to article by: "rick nielsen" <rnielsen@centurytel.net>
Date written: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:44:49 -0400
MsgID:<05edneAynfML3ODcRVn-uA@centurytel.net>

The whole scientific comminity defines ghosts and UFOs are paranormal. You are
the only retard who thinks otherwise.

Liar, ask James Oberg if he thinks UFO's are paranormal.

And so James Oberg is "the whole scientific community" now? Wrong again! Not
even close! An exception to the rule is not the rule.

In the scientific method an exception to a rule negates the rule.

You didn't cite the scientific method in anything you've said yet.

why I just did above there

No you didn't. I see no references to any legitimate textbooks or authorities.

scientific method has nothing to do with appealling to authrorities

Then that negates your reference to James Oberg then. Nicely done.

And I asked you what the scientific method is, not to perform it...and that
requires that you demonstrate some legitimate research that has been peer
reviewed by the appropriate people.

the scientific method is

1 observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomenon

2 formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomenon

3 use of the hypothesis to predict the existance of other phenomenon or
predict new the results of new observations of the phenomenon

4 performance of experimental tests of the predictions by independant
experimenters

hardly takes a text book to understand

If you believe that the scientific method can be summarized in four simple
steps, you are way more ignorant than I thought you could ever be. You aren't
even close.

All we have is your word and your word is unreliable. I have a textbook on the
scientific method right here on my desktop, and what you spew forth is nowhere
even close to real science. Would you like me to quote some of it to you?
I will show you mine if you will show me yours.

Show one scientific rule that has been "proven by an exception" was the rule
for gravity ever proven by an exception to it? Does the speed of light
require an exception to make it a rule? The one place this hoary old saying
"the exception proves the rule" has any true meaning is in a legal sense as
in a rule that has an exception is true in all the cases that aren't covered
by said exception but as I'm sure many will agree legal rules aren't
anything like scientific rules>

I am even more sure that James Oberg isn't the whole scientific community and it
is the scientific community as a whole that considers UFOs and ghosts,
paranormal. You (and maybe James Oberg) are the only dissenters and neither one
of you have given any logical rational reason to consider UFOs and ghosts
"normal". Try to weasel your way out of that as much as you can, you can't get
around that fact.

The Sage

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