Subject: Re: THE UFO CHALLENGE...
From: The_Sage
Date: 24/11/2004, 04:39
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo

Reply to article by: "rick nielsen" <rnielsen@centurytel.net>
Date written: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 01:48:25 -0500
MsgID:<JoKdnQIbHbJpQD_cRVn-hw@centurytel.net>

With respect,... "Extrordinary claims require extrordinary evidence"
is Bullshit. I don't know why people buy that baloney. ANY claim
requires evidence sufficient to support itself and no more. Evidence
is evidence. This attempt at "being reasonable" is merely a spider's
web to lure you into a disadvantageous position and set you up for
a rhetorical spanking.

Then let me be more specific: There is absolutely no evidence given in
the case of UFOs...and no evidence means a useless claim.

Get out your famous dictionary ; testimoney is evidence ;

Have someone get an encyclopedia and read it for you so that you can see and
understand that testimony is *legal* evidence, not *scientific* evidence.

wrong again the scientific method's first step is observation,

There you go, spewing forth you ignorance again...

1) There is no actual agreed upon "scientific method" per se, that is just a 
   generic term for "what science does in general"
2) The first step is education, meaning that you learn as much as you can about 
   a particular subject of interest before trying to blindly forge ahead without
   rhyme or reason...not unlike how you compose your posts

eyewitnessing
is obviously observation, and no amount of snideness on your part will
change that.

Wrong yet again. The only kind of eyewitnessing acceptable to science has to be
*trained* observation, something non-scientists don't do very often or
consistently.

there is more than
enough evidence to support the phenomenon of ufos ,it isn't conclusive

If it isn't conclusive, then you cannot say it "supports" it. Get a clue
please.

the observations fully support the phenomenon of ufos as a
phenomenon.

There are no observations, there are only reports of observations.

as to
being caused by aliens, some of the evidence seems to poiint that way some
doesn't, but then that is a theory not yet tested as noone has come up, as
of yet ,with a good way to test the theory

It isn't a theory if it is a wild-arse hypothesis.

you know I hope that hypothesis is another word for theory , the words
essentially mean the same thing,

No they don't. You really have no clue.

The Sage

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