Re: ::: John Lennon and the Martians [by Uri Geller] :::
Subject: Re: ::: John Lennon and the Martians [by Uri Geller] :::
From: "Koyaanisqatsi Fahrvergnugen" <koyanisqatsi@ziplip.com>
Date: 16/12/2004, 22:45
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors, alt.paranet.ufo, alt.magick, alt.paranet.paranormal, alt.drugs.psychedelics

Subject: Uri Geller: "The night the aliens called
on and spooked John Lennon!"
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:43:26 -0800
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2004/12/08/ftgeller08.xml
'X-FILES' SPOOKY: URI GELLER: "THE NIGHT THE ALIENS CALLED ON JOHN
LENNON AND LEFT A BIZARRE-LOOKING EGG-SHAPED OBJECT BEHIND!"
(UK Telegraph) Source: The Telegraph, London, Thursday,
December 9, 2004

SPLASH: They came in the darkness and had bug-like faces. Stranger
still, they left a weird egg-shaped object behind. Uri Geller recalls
his friend John Lennon's encounter with the unknown....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2004/12/08/ftgeller08.xml


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"I Am the Walrus" by John Lennon

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I'm crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.

Mister City Policeman sitting
Pretty little policemen in a row.
See how they fly like Lucy in the Sky, see how they run.
I'm crying, I'm crying.
I'm crying, I'm crying.

Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye.
Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess,
Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your knickers down.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.

I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.

Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun.
If the sun don't come, you get a tan
>From standing in the English rain.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.

Expert textpert choking smokers,
Don't you think the joker laughs at you?
See how they smile like pigs in a sty,
See how they snied.
I'm crying.

Semolina pilchard, climbing up the Eiffel Tower.
Elementary penguin singing Hari Krishna.
Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Alan Poe.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.
Goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob g'goo.

--The Beatles

JEHOVAH 1 - a.k.a. YAHWEH - is a mad alien,
full of eyes round about, He cometh with the
clouds, radioactive, all-pervading, He has
forged His covenant with the SubGenius in
CHAINS of GENETIC PROGRAMMING and DEMANDS
OBEISANCE to His caveman sense of humor.
He has been denying us SLACK and what He is
making us do dates back to Homo Connectus,
First Whole Man; only by letting our bodies
obey the Code of financial lust survival that
is built into them can our brains be freed
from his INEVITABLE FIST." [...]
http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p4.html

Cybridized Insectoid ^ And now a Wyrd Prophecy:
http://pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/sectoid2.htm
http://pw1.netcom.com/~mthorn/sectoid2.htm

Forrestal, James V.
First US Secretary of Defense
There's a bronze bust at the mall entrance to the pentagon
inscribed as follows:

"This memorial to James Forrestal, as a spontaneous
tribute to his lasting accomplishments in providing
for national security and his selfless devotion to
duty, was erected by thousands of his friends and
co-workers of all rank and stations."

The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons:
They were indeed splendid little creatures, shaped like praying
mantises  http://deoxy.org/mantid.htm , and were more advanced
than us by perhaps a billion years. Of the original group who were
the first to learn the "horrible truth", several committed suicide,
the most prominent of whom was James V. Forrestal. Yes, he
poll-vaulted with a fine, triple back-flip to his psyops "death"
from a 16th story hospital window... And, the records - as they
say - are still sealed to this very day... Hhmm, except, that is,
for these few, paltry, declassified tid-bits at Princeton
http://libweb.princeton.edu
and at Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=James+V.+Forrestal
Etcetera...
http://sec.noaa.gov/SWN/
http://www.alexgrey.com/

The Sorcerers -- http://www.cfr.org

Picknett, Lynn and Prince, Clive. The Stargate Conspiracy:
The Truth About Extraterrestrial Life and the Mysteries of
Ancient Egypt. New York: Berkley Books, 2001. 425 pages.
http://www.namebase.org/sources/fL.html

http://www.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/staley.htm
... The Dweller on the Threshold ...
Against the Light: A Nightside Narrative
by Kenneth Grant (London: Starfire Publishing, 1997)
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGHGHGHHGHHHHGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
. . . t i m e l e s s n e s s . . .
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Meet:  " T H E   A N C I E N T S "
"Large head which is proportionally much larger relative to its
body than the heads of humans. Slit for mouth. Indentations for
nose and ears. Hands are webbed with only four fingers. Thin body.
Resemble a praying mantis insect. The Ancients are supposedly an
extra-terrestrial species closely related to the Greys.
The Ancients are reported to direct and control the actions of the
Greys. Some individuals believe that the Ancients are the
masterminds behind the abduction of human beings and the
human-Grey cross breeding experiments. These rare and unusual
beings may be the leaders or arbiters of their culture--A culture
based on raw intellect, data and sterile replication biology
without a spiritual or emotional connection base. Detailed
information on Ancient interaction with human beings still
remains a mystery."   http://www.fas.org/irp/gao/index.html

Parallel Universes [May 2003 issue] http://www.sciam.com/issue.cfm
Not just a staple of science fiction, other universes are a direct
implication of cosmological observations

By Max Tegmark
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?colID=1&articleID=000F1EDD-B48A-1E90-8EA5809EC5880000

w e    a r e    a l l    a n o m a l o u s
http://www.sparkchamber.co.uk/quantum.html
http://www.cubethemovie.com/

The Cube:
"Six people wake from their daily lives and find they are imprisoned in
a deadly maze. Slowly, they discover that each holds a key to unlocking
this diabolical puzzle. But as a mathematical formula for escape begins
to reveal itself, the enemy rises from within themselves and survival
is
threatened by the same human weaknesses that created the CUBE."
http://www.cubethemovie.com

CUBE^2: HYPERCUBE
http://www.cube2themovie.com/

Hajj - pilgrimage to Mecca
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-93281/koranhaj.htm

The Triune Brain
http://www.kheper.auz.com/gaia/intelligence/MacLean.htm

Tesseract, hypercube ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Hypercube,+tesseract

"Gilgamesh tomb believed found
Archaeologists in Iraq believe
they may have found the lost
tomb of King Gilgamesh - the
subject of the oldest book in
history..."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2982891.stm

Why? The Neuroscience of Suicide
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?colID=1&articleID=0006AF90-5BC7-1E1B-8B3B809EC588EEDF

"... One focus is on differences in the availability of the
brain chemical serotonin--previous research on the basis
of impulsivity has indicated a dearth of it...."
http://www.sciam.com/issue.cfm

Brookhaven National Laboratory
http://www.bnl.gov/RHIC/

Astrium - Space is our business
http://www.matra-marconi-space.com/

John Lilly's "Cosmic Coincidence Control"
http://www.johnclilly.com/
"In the province of the mind, there are no limits."

National Reconnaissance Office
http://164.109.174.16/index.html

"...possible visitation."
--Bernard Haisch
http://ufoskeptic.org/dimensions.html

See also Jacques Vallee:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Jacques+Vallee&btnG=Google+Search

THE RESPONSIBLE PARENT'S GUIDE
TO HEALTHY MOOD-BOOSTERS
FOR THE WHOLE FAMN DAMILY
http://www.biopsychiatry.com/index.html
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"Statistically, the probability of any
one of us being here is so small that
you'd think the mere fact of existing
would keep us all in a contented
dazzlement of surprise."
-- Lewis Thomas, The Lives of a Cell

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Naval Space Command (NAVSPACECOM)
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/nssrm/initiatives/navspace.htm
Joint Space Intelligence/Operations Course (JSIOC)
http://cryptome.org/

Congratulations to Gross, Politzer and Wilczek!
on receiving the Nobel Prize in Physics for 2004
http://www.superstringtheory.com/

Full Entangled House
Entanglement -- the weird quantum property
in which one particle instantly knows what has
happened to a distant partner particle -- appears
to be essential for performing steps in a quantum
computation. A group from the University of Science
and Technology of China has entangled five particles,
one more than the previous record and the minimum
needed for standard error correction.
The researchers first created two entangled photon
pairs, sent one photon from each pair through a beam
splitter to entangle them, and then sent one of the
remaining photons through a beam splitter with a fifth
photon, thereby entangling all five photons.
The entanglement allowed them to re-create, or
"teleport," the quantum state of one photon among
the five to any of three others (using the fourth as an
intermediary), instead of to a predetermined one as in
previous demonstrations. Although a quantum computer
probably would not run entirely on photons, manipulating
them is key for quantum communications.
See the July 1 _Nature_. --JR Minkel
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Current induced electron spin polarization in strained semiconductors
Authors: Y. Kato, R. C. Myers, A. C. Gossard, D. D. Awschalom
Comments: 5 pages, 4 figures, 1 table
Subj-class: Mesoscopic Systems and Quantum Hall Effect;
Materials Science
The polarization of conduction electron spins due to
an electrical current is observed in strained nonmagnetic
semiconductors using static and time-resolved Faraday
rotation. The density, lifetime, and orientation rate of
the electrically-polarized spins are characterized by a
combination of optical and electrical methods. In addition,
the dynamics of the current-induced spins are investigated
by utilizing electrical pulses generated from a
photoconductive switch. These results demonstrate the
possibility of a spin source for semiconductor spintronic
devices without the use of magnetic materials.
http://arXiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0403407
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Einstein on the Photoelectric Effect - David Cassidy
http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay-photoelectric.htm
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"U.S. government researchers have discovered that the DMT molecule
-- a psychedelic substance -- is released in the pineal gland in
your brain every night around 4 a.m. Some suggest that this is
the source of reports of alien abduction."
More info here: http://www.pickover.com/realitycarnival.html#dmta

DMT at Terence McKenna Land --http://deoxy.org/mckenna.htm

"We are alienated, so alienated that the self
must disguise itself as an extraterrestrial
in order not to alarm us with the truly
bizarre dimensions that it encompasses."
-- Terence McKenna
http://www.deoxy.org/t_thc.htm
(Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.) wrote:
The Jinn have been around for a LONG, LONG time.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT!
-Dr. Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
Interdimensional Intelligence Analyst
Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
USENET Meme Acquisition and Propagation Directorate
"An Equal Opportunity Mystickal Fraternity And Stuff"
http://web.archive.org/web/19980424200237/http://www.brotherblue.org/

The Logic of Quantum Mechanics Derived from Classical General
Relativity
http://arXiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9706018

Author: Mark J. Hadley (Univ. of Warwick, UK)
Comments: 16 pages Latex
Journal-ref: Found.Phys.Lett. 10 (1997) 43-60
For the first time it is shown that the logic of quantum
mechanics can be derived from Classical Physics. An orthomodular
lattice of propositions, characteristic of quantum logic, is
constructed for manifolds in Einstein's theory of general
relativity. A particle is modelled by a topologically non-trivial
4-manifold with closed timelike curves - a 4-geon, rather than as
an evolving 3-manifold. It is then possible for both the state
preparation and measurement apparatus to constrain the results
of experiments. It is shown that propositions about the results
of measurements can satisfy a non-distributive logic rather than
the Boolean logic of classical systems. Reasonable assumptions
about the role of the measurement apparatus leads to an
orthomodular lattice of propositions characteristic of
quantum logic.
http://arXiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9706018

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Quantum Gravity as a Dissipative Deterministic System
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9903084
Author: Gerard 't Hooft
Comments: 20 pages plain TeX, 2 figures PostScript.
Added some further explanations, and the definitions
of 'beable' and 'changeable'.
A minor error corrected
Report-no: THU-99/07
Journal-ref: Class.Quant.Grav. 16 (1999) 3263-3279
It is argued that the so-called holographic principle will
obstruct attempts to produce physically realistic models for
the unification of general relativity with quantum mechanics,
unless determinism in the latter is restored. The notion of
time in GR is so different from the usual one in elementary
particle physics that we believe that certain versions of
hidden variable theories can -- and must -- be revived.
A completely natural procedure is proposed, in which the
dissipation of information plays an essential role.
Unlike earlier attempts, it allows us to use strictly
continuous and differentiable classical field theories as a
starting point (although discrete variables, leading to
fermionic degrees of freedom, are also welcome), and we
show how an effective Hilbert space of quantum states naturally
emerges when one attempts to describe the solutions statistically.
Our theory removes some of the mysteries of the holographic
principle; apparently non-local features are to be expected when
the quantum degrees of freedom of the world are projected onto a
lower-dimensional black hole horizon. Various examples and models
illustrate the points we wish to make, notably a model showing
that massless, non interacting neutrinos are deterministic.
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9903084

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On Gravity, Holography and the Quantum
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0001048
Authors: Carsten van de Bruck (Brown University)
Comments: 21 pages, 1 figure. Some references added and typos
corrected. Some points are (hopefully) made clearer in sections 6
and 7 Report-no: Brown-HET-1210
The holographic principle states that the number of degrees of
freedom describing the physics inside a volume (including gravity)
is bounded by the area of the boundary (also called the screen)
which encloses this volume. A stronger statement is that these
(quantum) degrees of freedom live on the boundary and describe the
physics inside the volume completely. The obvious question is,
what mechanism is behind the holographic principle. Recently,
't Hooft argued that the quantum degrees of freedom on the
boundary are not fundamental. We argue that this interpretation
opens up the possibility that the mapping between the theory in
the bulk (the holographic theory) and the theory on the screen
(the dual theory) is always given by a (generalized) procedure
of stochastic quantization. We show that gravity causes
differences to the situation in Minkowski/Euclidean spacetime
and argue that the fictitious coordinate needed in the stochastic
quantization procedure can be spatial. The diffusion coefficient
of the stochastic process is in general a function of this
coordinate. While a mapping of a bulk theory onto a (quantum)
boundary theory can be possible, such a mapping does not make
sense in spacetimes in which the area of the screen is growing
with time. This is connected to the average process in the
formalism of stochastic quantization. We show where the
stochastic quantization procedure breaks down and argue, in
agreement with ‘t Hooft, that the quantum degrees of freedom
are not fundamental degrees of freedom. They appear as a limit
of a more complex process.
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0001048

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Dissipation and quantization
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0007138
Authors: Massimo Blasone, Petr Jizba, Giuseppe Vitiello
Comments: 4 pages, RevTeX, 1 figure. Revised version with
minor changes
Journal-ref: Phys.Lett. A287 (2001) 205-210

We show that the dissipation term in the Hamiltonian for a couple
of classical damped-amplified oscillators manifests itself as a
geometric phase and is actually responsible for the appearance of
the zero point energy in the quantum spectrum of the 1D linear
harmonic oscillator. We also discuss the thermodynamical features
of the system. Our work has been inspired by 't Hooft proposal
according to which information loss in certain classical systems
may lead to "an apparent quantization of the orbits which
resembles the quantum structure seen in the real world".
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0007138

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Chaotic Quantization of Classical Gauge Fields
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0105279
Authors: T.S. Biro, S.G. Matinyan, B. MÃ1&#8260;4ller
Report-no: DUKE-TH-01-211
Journal-ref: Found.Phys.Lett. 14 (2001) 471-485

We argue that the quantized non-Abelian gauge theory can be
obtained as the infrared limit of the corresponding classical
gauge theory in a higher dimension. We show how the
transformation from classical to quantum field theory emerges
and calculate Planck's constant from quantities defined in the
underlying classical gauge theory.
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0105279

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Flat space physics from holography
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0402058
Authors: Raphael Bousso
Comments: 11 pages, 3 figures; v2: minor corrections
Report-no: UCB-PTH-04/02
Journal-ref: JHEP 0405 (2004) 050

We point out that aspects of quantum mechanics can be derived
from the holographic principle, using only a perturbative limit
of classical general relativity. In flat space, the covariant
entropy bound reduces to the Bekenstein bound. The latter does
not contain Newton's constant and cannot operate via
gravitational backreaction. Instead, it is protected by - and
in this sense, predicts - the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0402058

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Quantum Mechanics as Quantum Information (and only a little more)
http://arXiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205039
Authors: Christopher A. Fuchs (Bell Labs)
Comments: 59 pages, 5 figures, 140 equations, one simple idea

In this paper, I try once again to cause some good-natured trouble.
The issue remains, when will we ever stop burdening the taxpayer
with conferences devoted to the quantum foundations? The suspicion
is expressed that no end will be in sight until a means is found to
reduce quantum theory to two or three statements of crisp physical
(rather than abstract, axiomatic) significance. In this regard, no
tool appears better calibrated for a direct assault than quantum
information theory. Far from a strained application of the latest
fad to a time-honored problem, this method holds promise precisely
because a large part--but not all--of the structure of quantum
theory has always concerned information. It is just that the
physics community needs reminding.  This paper, though taking
quant-ph/0106166 as its core, corrects one mistake and offers
several observations beyond the previous version. In particular,
I identify one element of quantum mechanics that I would not
label a subjective term in the theory--it  is the integer
parameter D traditionally ascribed to a quantum system via
its Hilbert-space dimension.
http://arXiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205039

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ISLAM: A SEX POSITIVE RELIGION

Islam could be classed as a sex-positive religion.
Though it held many positions in common with
Judaism and Christianity, and many characters in
the Bible appear in the Koran, Islamic laws relating
to marriage, divorce, fornication, and other aspects
of sexual behavior are derived more from pre-Islamic
Arabic attitudes than from the Judeo-Christian
tradition. Moreover, the Greek ascetic attitudes
about sex were at first not particualrly strong in
Islam, although they later had some effect.
The key to Islamic outlooks on sex, as on so many
other things, is the teachings of the Prophet
Muhammed, who, true to the Arabic tradition,
regarded sex as a good rather than an evil aspect
of life. This still holds true today.

H. R. P. Dickson, a recorder of Arab customs
and mores, reported in the 1930s that it was

no exageration to say that sexual intercourse
is loved by the ordinary Arab above all pleasures
in the world. It is the one great pleasure common
to rich and poor alike, and the one moment of
forgetfulness in his daily round of troubles that
Badawin or townsmen can enjoy. Men and women
equally love the act, which is said to keep men
young, "just like riding a mare."

In this attitude the Arabs were simply reflecting
the teachings of Muhammed.
A nineteenth-century Muslim writer summarized
the Islamic attitudes.

Coition is one of the causes of the preservation of
health. Let him among you who is in a condition for
having sufficient copulation marry: marriage gives
moderation of the gaze and more obligatorily turns
one away from incest and adultery.

Before Muhammed, The Arabs were a male-centered
tribal people pacticing polygamy, circumcision, and
occasional infanticide, whose customs and gods were
being undermined by outside forces, Including
Christianity and Judaism. Though the Prophet modified,
changed, abolished, and reformed many traditional
Arabic customs and beliefs, the Muslim Arabs
remained a male-centered, polygamous society in which
women were regarded as inferior to men. Muhammed,
regarded by Islam as the last and greatest of the
prophets of Allah, was born in Mecca about 570 A.D.
and died there in 632 A.D. [...]
[Sexual Variance in Society and History
by Vern L. Bullough 1976 - University of Chicago Press]

MEANWHILE....

Toutatis Passed By Earth On A Wednesday
http://www.physnews.com/showlink.php?id=10228

The H.E.S.S. Telescope system, a new scout to the
high-energy universe, will be opened on
September 28, 2004 in the vicinity of
the Gamsberg/Namibia
http://www.physorg.com/search/telescope

A new system of large telescopes, dedicated to the
search of the sources of high energetic particles with
energies of more than 100 GeV, like supernova
remnants and other exotic objects, will be opened on
September 28, 2004 by the prime minister of the
Republic of Namibia, Dr. Theo-Ben Gurirab. Numerous
high-ranking guests from Namibia, South Africa,
France and Germany will attend the ceremony on the
Farm Goellschau in Namibia. The international project,
which is coordinated by the Max Planck Institute for
Nuclear Physics, is based on technologies from
particle physics. It provides a powerful instrument
for the young research field of TeV-astronomy,
and may for the first time allow the detection of
"dark matter" in the universe. The inauguration of the
four telescopes marks the completion of the
installation of the first phase of H.E.S.S.
The telescope system can start its work for the
benefit of the worldwide astronomical community.
http://www.physorg.com/news1348.html

Entheogens in Christianity
http://www.bluehoney.org/EntheoChrist.htm
"... the poor could never afford to buy a hit of ergot
to experience ego death, unity consciousness, and
heaven-on-earth. But Jesus gave them ergot for free,
so that they could experience ego death, and the
priests -- who had a thriving business -- were
infuriated and seriously threatened..."
http://www.bluehoney.org/EntheoChrist.htm

The Origins of Christianity and
the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
by Acharya S:
http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm

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"...These comprise the nine most important prophecies
of the Hopis, connected with the creation of the nine
worlds: the three previous worlds on which we lived,
the present Fourth World, the three future worlds we
have yet to experience, and the world of Taiowa, the
Creator, and his nephew, Sotuknang."
[From The Book of the Hopi by Frank Waters]
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/pan.htm

"Near the day of the Great Purification,
there will be cobwebs spun
back and forth in the sky."

"The Purification will begin shortly
after humans build a great house in
the sky. By then there will be fires
everywhere and greedy, selfish,
power-mad leaders, internal wars."

-- pre-Colombian Hopi prophecies
http://deoxy.org/omega.htm
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Emergent Consciousness: The "Big Wow" theory
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0007006
|- From the Early Universe to Our Mind
http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Zizzi_P/0/1/0/all/0/1

Are We Being Taken to the Cleaners by Spacetime Physicists?
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/louis.savain/Crackpots/notorious.htm
The CRACKPOT Page:
http://www.phys.psu.edu/~scalise/misc/crackpot/

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IRAQnaphobia
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/iz.html

The Eye Of The Storm:
http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/TheEyeOfTheStorm.htm

...And, speaking of rocks falling from the sky...

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"... "In pre-Islamic days, called the Days of Ignorance,
the religious background of the Arabs was pagan, and
basically animistic. ..."
http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Islam.html

"According to some (apparently different) sources such as

http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/byauthor/aditichaturvedi/vpopia2.html

"... Muhammad's uncle was one of the resident priests of the
Shiv temple known as 'Kaaba'. ... this glorious Hindu temple
was made to symbolically represent a microcosm of the
universe. ... Right at the centre of the Kaaba
was the octogonal pedestal of Bramha the creator. ...
Muhammad destroyed all 360 idols,
but even he could not summon the courage to
completely obliterate the Shivling in the Kaaba. ...

"... Today it lies broken at seven places and
held together by a silver band studded with silver nails,
bearing the name 'Sangey Aswad' which came from the
Sanskrit Ashwet meaning non-white or black stone.

"... oral recitation of Vedic scriptures was always done in
a lyrical fashion, utilizing music ... Muhammad decided to
forbid Music. ...".
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"The status of women was that of pride and equal respect.
How could it be otherwise with a people whose chief deity
was the goddess Durga (Alla). Women married men of their
choice and were financially independent. They were
entrepeneurs, artisans, poets and even warriors! Later on
Muhammad would marry Khadija, who was not only a wealthy
merchant but also in the position to choose her own
husband. This clearly demonstrates the level of freedom
women enjoyed in Vedic Arabia. Hind, who was the wife of
Muhammad's chief enemy Abu Sufyan, herself participated
in the battlefield."
[...]
"Gone were the schools, teachers, libraries,
poets, artists, philosophers and scholars that
had littered the Vedic landscape of Arabia like
stars. Everyone had to become a raider if not
from choice then for the sake of surviving the
absolute intolerance of dissenters, that Islam
preached. Thus was the light of learning
extinguished in Arabia. All that remained was
the Koran, the Kalma and the murderous hatred
of anything Non-Muslim."
http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/byauthor/aditichaturvedi/vpopia2.html
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"Kali: the bloodthirsty wife of Shiva,
http://pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/kali.htm
with blue-black body, four arms, using a human skull
as a cup.  Her color symbolizes eternal night of
non-existence, free of illusion and distinction.
She wears a garland of the heads of impure
thoughts, which She has severed from the
personalities of Her devotees."
http://pw1.netcom.com/~mthorn/kali.htm
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"The Shivling is the sacred meteorite. [...]
>From the Hindu point of view, it is Shiva's lingham,
or phallic symbol. [...]

"More material and pictures about such things on webpage:
http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Islam.html#earlyarabia

"Although the above is not widely known in Eurocentric societies,
it is common knowledge in India, and indicates some of the history
and depth of feeling that is involved in the Muslim-Hindu conflicts
between Pakistan and India."
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"... Muhammad received his first revelation in
610, on the mountain of Hira outside Mecca. The
revelation came in a time when Muhammad searched
for solitude. ..."
http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Islam.html
[...]
"According to a xenohistorian.faithweb web page:
http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/neareast/index.html

"... Mohammed stayed [in Mecca in 615] because
his family connections protected him ... He came
into the courtyard of the Kaaba and suggested
that the gods and goddesses of Mecca might be
real after all, serving as saints or angels to
mediate between God and man. ... These are the
so-called "Satanic verses" that have caused much
controversy among scholars of Islam. ... They
[the Meccan establishment] enthusiastically
received his [Mohammed's] recantation, but when
he [Mohammed] saw the reaction he repented ...
He [Mohammed] said that the devil had momentarily
possessed his tongue, and denounced idolatry more
vigorously than before. ...".
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http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Islam.html
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THE YEZIDIS OF KURDISTAN -
ARE THEY REALLY ZOROASTRIANS ???
by Noshir H. Dadrawala
[...] "The chief divine figure of the Yazidi is
Malak Taus ('Peacock Angel'), worshipped in the form
of a peacock. He rules the universe with six other
angels, but all seven are subordinate to the supreme
God, who has had no direct interest in the universe
since he created it. The seven angels are worshipped
by the Yazidi in the form of seven bronze or iron
peacock figures called sanjaq, the largest of which
weighs nearly 700 pounds." [...]
http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/deen33f.html
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"It ain't over 'til it's over." Yogi Berra
http://deoxy.org/omega.htm

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Goo goo g'joob!
http://www.messiah.org/P21071.htm