altheim wrote in message <33nuggF40h0lnU1@individual.net>...

"researcher" <crbjlrnld@yahoo.com> wrote:

altheim wrote in message <33lm5lF423tkrU1@individual.net>...

"John Griffin" <thathillbilly@yahooie.com> wrote:

"researcher" <crbjlrnld@yahoo.com> wrote:

[  no, he didn't write that bullshit -- it's blatant plagiarism ]
[  from http://www.bvalphaserver.com/article11519.html ]

A Scientific Explanation Of The UFO Mystery
Starting with the facts about UFOs as they are observed, there are
good scientific reasons to believe that the energy field associated
with UFOs is psychotronic energy.

Correction: There are emotional reasons for swallowing that shit.

"Emotional" - why emotional? Don't you mean psychological?

... This energy form can account
for all of the effects that UFOs have been observed to produce.

Hallucination can do a better accounting.  Funny that..."psychotronic
energy" is a hallucination.

John, you are so frantic in your eagerness to debunk this article
you are failing to find the right adjectives. Calm down; the author
might well have invented a silly theory but a "hallucination" it is
not.

I read through this article (whoever wrote it) - well as much as I
had patience for - and I believe it was mostly pseudo-science.
But having said that there is a grain of truth in there which IMO
supports the argument for forces, physical or psychic, required
to explain the (ostensible) observed movments of ufos. More
importantly to explain ETs' (if that is what they are) journeys
across lighyears.

The author may be wrong but at least he is making an effort
and for that he should be respected.

--
altheim

I am the original author.
I'll summarize it briefly.
You put inanimate objects in varying electric
fields and you get a corona discharge. This can be filmed. You put living
organisms under the same type of fields and you get a peculiar type of
corona discharge, which can also be filmed. Around living organisms it
behaves like there is some other force holding it together, and modifying
its behaviour. The energy field (called an aura) behaves like an organism
itself, with veins of color running through it and certain passage ways.

It

does not behave randomly. The aura energy around a human has been filmed

to

change itself, color and shape in direct response to the human's thoughts
and feelings. It is as if there is a mental energy at work in the field

and

it is modifying the electric and magnetic fields and colors that are in

the

corona discharge. It is this previously unknown energy that seems to be
holding the other energies in the aura together and modifying them that

is

in question. It has been named psychotronic energy by the Czechs and bio
plasmic energy by the Russians, Chi by the Chinese. The energy has bright
flares filmed at all of the Chinese accupuncture points. People claiming

to

heal by
the laying on of hands, faith healers, have actually been filmed to have
this energy focus into a bright beam coming from their hands when they
concentrate on faith healing. This has also been filmed; the procedure is
called Kirlian photography and there is much about it on the web.
What you have here is some sort of a mental energy that seems to be

capable

of mixing with and generating the other energy fields. It is this energy
that the book [psychic discoveries behind the iron curtain] shows has

been

investigated with the physics instrumentation,
and they got a !/r result for diminishing with distance. All other known
forces diminish with 1/r2, (which is inverse squared). Also they shielded
against all known energy
fields, and it still got through indicating it is something else.
The effects that they have observed associated with this energy resemble

the

effects produced by UFOs, that observers have reported. - and the effects
are many and varied.
Czech scientist and mathematician, Robert Pavlitta developed these

devices,

different kinds of metals combined in unusual shapes, that have been

shown

to resonate with this energy and collect it; called psychotronic

generators.

My theory is that UFOs must have some sort of psychotronic generators as

the

source of their energy field and propulsion.
Experts agree that UFOs are using some sort of energy field propulsion.
Note: The bursting of the plant stem nodes in crop circles, diminishes

with

1/r as you get away from the center.
The energy effects and the effects on the environment that UFOs have been
observed to cause compare very well with the effects observed from
psychotronic energy. Also the energy effects found in the crop circles
compares very well with this energy.
I believe the UFOs are using psychotronic energy (also called bio plasmic
energy) to propel their aircraft and to cause the crop circles.

As I said in my reply to John Griffin, this all looks like pseudo-science
to me and I'm sure, if you think about it, you will acknowledge this is

true.

Real science starts with ideas like yours and tries to falsify them. It
tests and measures them; it smashes and hammers them with all
that known technology can throw at them and if, and only if, it passes
them all can they be formalised into a theory and given credibility.
Until then, if I may say so, it is probably best not to publish them
lest the sadistic, unfeeling, unsympathetic piranhas in these groups
rip you to pieces.

I have a Bachelor's degree in physics. Real science as I understand it,
starts with the facts as they are observed and then tries to develope ideas,
or theories to explain those facts. Then when a theory or explanation is
proposed, that theory is used to propose an experiment which can be tested
to verify or falsify the theory. {Example: This is observed. My theory to
explain this is that theory. Using that theory, this also should be true.
Let's test experimentally to see if this is also true. The experimental test
verifies or denies the theory wheather or not the predicted behaviour based
on the theory comes true.}
I started with the facts about UFOs, from Strange Effects from UFOs. I
looked for anything I knew of in science that could explain all of those
facts. The only thing I found was called psychotronic energy in
parapsychology and it is at the frontier region of science. [A UFO healed a
man's hand rapidly; Parapsychology showed me the only energy field that
could heal like that. After further investigation, that energy (psychotronic
energy) showed many of the other effects associated with UFOs as well. That
is the only SINGLE energy in all of science that could cause all of these
different effects that UFOs cause.
So, my theory or explanation for the UFO energy field is that it is
psychotronic energy.
All of this looks very scientifically sound to me.
My proposed experiment to test it: Psychotronic generators are the only know
mechanisms to collect and use this energy, so try to build an aircraft that
is a resonator of this energy using psychotronic genearators.
{This theory has been in the public domain since 1999. Boeing, Mac Donald
Douglas, Nasa, etc. were among the first to know about it. I emailed it to
them. I have no idea if they have been able to build such an aircraft since
1999. They don't communicate with me.}

One of the problems with your theory is that you have prematurely
given a name to the, as yet unidentified force, that you believe
to be the source of propulsion - i.e. "psychotronic". The observed
effects from Kirlian photography have been adequately explained
in normal physical terms without resorting to unknown forces.

No they have not. In PSYCHIC DISCOVERIES BEHIND THE IRON CURTAIN, scientists
have done in communist countries more experiments than what were done in the
west. Like it said, they shielded against all known energy forms, and the
effects from the aura got through the shields. Psychics claiming the ability
to move objects without touching them, psychokinesis, were tested with
physics instrumentaion. They discovered pulsating electric and magnetic
fields generated by the auras of the psychics as they attempted to move
objects and turn compass needles with only their minds. Something else is
going on here then what you seem to know about. Why does the Aura
mysteriously flare up at all of the accupuncture points of the Chinese? The
Aura is not just simple carona discharge. Something else is also happening.

Already parapsychologists regret having had to use adjectives like
"psi", "psychic", etc. to convey what they mean when talking about
forces* they do not understand since giving a name to the phenomena
implies they *do* understand. So, if I take it that what you really
mean to say is that ufos employ some means of transportation
(avoid assuming "propulsion") as yet unknown to terrestrial science
and without trying to explain it yourself (especially in terms of Kirlian
photography), then I am with you.

I repeat. The effects from UFOs and the effects of the Aura energy are very
similar and they are many. One energy producing all of those varied effects.
High probability that UFOs are using Aura type energy for propulsion.
Read Strange Effects from UFOs and Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron
Curtain, and make your own comparison.
Also the crop circles, which many have seen UFOs around, have the same type
of energy effects.

[*Even the notion that a "force" is the causal mechanism is a
presumption]

--
altheim

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