altheim wrote:

"Michael Davis" <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

altheim wrote:

"Michael Davis" <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

researcher wrote:

Michael Davis wrote:

altheim wrote:

This isn't a debating forum. This is Usenet. It is an entertainment
forum. I find debunking UFO kooks to be entertaining. HTH.

Can't speak for yourself, eh, kook?

Hang on - who are you adressing here? I didn't write that - you did.

Sigh. My appraisal of you just went down by another 20 IQ points.
I was naturally talking to that "researcher" clown. The post was
in response to him, after all.

Then why did you post your comment "Can't speak for yourself..."
directly beneath your own "This isn't a debating forum..." - which
in turn you posted under my name? This is just sloppy editing.

More like sloppy reading.

And I am well aware of who wrote  what.

Too bad you don't know how to make it comprehensible
for your readers.

Very little seems to be comprehensible to you.

...was referring to "researcher's" silly posting of a pile of
irrelevant quotes from dead men rather than trying to explain
himself in his own words.

You really do suck at this.

yeah right!

Agreement noted.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance!"
--Albert Einstein

Non sequitur. You have suggested nothing that can be investigated.

But he has.

List what you think he has proposed that can be scientifically
investigated.

His Psychotronic Energy.

Ok, so please explain how it can be investigated. See, there's more to science than just making up a snappy but meaningless phrase like "psychotronic energy." I'll help you out with the first step. What leads you to believe there even is some unknown form of energy at work here? Please explain it in detail and show all your work. You need to answer that question first, then about a dozen more, before you can even start to formulate a decent testable hypothesis.

"There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such trifling investments of fact."
--Mark Twain

Non sequitur. You aren't posting science. You are posting fairytales.

To you perhaps. To me it is conjecture.

Conjecture based on fairytales is called fantasizing. It is not
science.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is

proof

against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting
ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
--Herbert Spencer

Non sequitur. You have not actually investigated anything.

But it *is* relevant:

To whom?

The same people for whom you think it is non sequitor.

You mean kooks? Well lots of nonsensical things are somehow relevant to them, but so what? How is it relevant here in the real world?

you are showing contempt.

Yes, I have contempt for frauds and fools and ignoramuses who try
to pass themselves off as some sort of serious "researcher" and
push bunk on people.

You are digging yourself further and further into the crap and
you don't even know why.

Oh the irony.

One quote is about "conjecture" and
the other is about contempt prior to investigation -

And all are totally irrelevant to this discussion. "researcher" just can't think of anything intelligent and relevant to say, so he panicked and cut&pasted a bunch of irrelevant quotes from famous people in hopes that his cowardly shotgun approach might hit something and impress someone. Looks like he only managed to impress you. Everyone else seems to see what a fool he is.

you display
a priori contempt by describing researcher's conjecture as
fairytales.

Got a more accurate term?

In one sentence you manage to offend two basic
tenets of the very doctrine you most want to uphold - scepticism.

The skeptics here don't seem to be offended by *my* posts. HTH.

The real issue here is why don't *you* have any contempt
for that sort of behavior?

I have more contempt for your sort of behaviour.

So you have contempt for the skeptics and debunkers but not the kooks? Ok then. Birds of a feather and all that I guess.

I'm an
average guy

Scoring a "C" on the report card of life is nothing to brag about. HTH.

brought up to respect other people, no matter
how odd their beliefs may seem.

Political correctness will be the death of Western Civilization. It is a disease that costs more and does more damage than AIDS, cancer, heart disease and male pattern baldness combined. The world just makes so much more sense when you *don't* give every ranting nut the benefit of the doubt. Try it, you'll like it.

It would be a conceit to
think I am necessarily right. Like it or not the same applies
to you.

No it doesn't because I am a rational person. I realize that if you can prove you are right, then you are right period. If the other guy can't prove he's right then there is no reason to assume he is right, period. No conceit involved. That's just reality. Learn to deal with it.

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