altheim wrote in message <344od9F45s75mU1@individual.net>...

"researcher" <crbjlrnld@yahoo.com> wrote:

altheim wrote in message <341s04F44j6h7U1@individual.net>...

"researcher" <crbjlrnld@yahoo.com> wrote:

You put inanimate objects in varying electric
fields and you get a corona discharge. This can be filmed. You put

living

organisms under the same type of fields and you get a peculiar type of
corona discharge, which can also be filmed.  Around living organisms

it

behaves like there is some other force holding it together, and

modifying

its behaviour.

What kind of behaviour and in what way is it (the organism?) being
held together? Why should you expect it to fall apart?

Ordinary carona discharge around inanimate objects is like a random

mixture

of light and magnetic and electric fields, behaving randomly like fire
flames in a fire place.
The carona discharge (or Aura) around an organism shows a detailed
organization of the energy that is not random. It has veins and passage

ways

moving through it. It also has bright flares at the accupuncture points
showing that the carona discharge is high lighting another energy that is
already there. Cut off a finger, or part of a leaf, and put the hand or

leaf

in the electric fields, and the carona discharge still shows the same

thing

in the region of the missing part. The electric fields are illuminating
another energy that is already there, -the chi or psychotronic energy.

[...]

You raise a lot of points that I don't have the time (or stamina) to

discuss

in detail but, cutting to the core you seem to be saying that ufos

(presumably

meaning the ostensible alien ones) have as their drive system some kind
of, as yet unrecognized by contemporary science, power source and which
you have chosen to name "psychotronic"?

I don't have a problem with that, if worded in such a manner, but why
address Kirlian  type corona discharges as the source of your
psychotronic energy?

The Czechoslavakians named it psychotronic energy. In the book PSYCHIC
DISCOVERIES BEHIND THE IRON CURTAIN, the physicists investigating this
energy first found it in the human aura, using kirlian photography. I was
looking for any energy in science that could explain the effects that

UFOs

produce, and this is the only energy I found that can do that. One energy
that can cause all of the different effects UFOs cause.

That sounds like a reasonable conclusion and I wish you every success
if you intend to pursue that line of inquiry.

But it might be worth noting that (in psychical research) large scale
psychokinetic effects have been observed to occur almost always
without deliberate intent. Attempting to will an 'event' to occur usually
fails and if it does occur on cue the law of probability suggests it is
coincidence.

That is not to say that PK is divorced from mental processes.
I have never heard of a case of apport, poltergeist, movement of
objects at a distance, etc. that did not involve a human to generate
it or observe it. If there is, hidden in the depths of the human brain,
a means of harnessing psychokinetic force I'm afraid (AFAIK at
this moment in time) no scientist has discovered it. Your ideas
about psychotronic energy are as good as anyone elses so,
go for it.

In that book, PSYCHIC DISCOVERIES BEHIND THE IRON CURTAIN, the scientists
placed physics instrumentation around psychics that were trying to move
objects with their minds. The Instrumentation recorded varying and pulsating
electric and magnetic fields which they believe was generated by the Aura
energy of those psychics.
[The energy field around ufos also generates these kind of fields.]

Czech scientist and mathematician, Robert Pavlitta developed these

devices,

different kinds of metals combined in unusual shapes, that have been

shown

to resonate with this energy and collect it; called psychotronic

generators.

My theory is that UFOs must have some sort of psychotronic generators

as

the

source of their energy field and propulsion.

Why?

Those generators are the only physical devices that seem to charge up on
this energy type and use it to do specific tasks.
One generator kills flies, one pruduces strong magnetic like attraction,

but

it is not magnetic, one causes plants to grow faster, etc...
UFOs some times cause sickness, produce magnetic effects, and cause
stimulation of plant growth at landing sites. There are several other
effects that match with UFOs.
If these are the only devices that can use this type of energy, then UFOs
must have some type of psychotronic generators in them, to charge up on

and

use this energy. It is a vibrational energy, so resonance can be used to
charge up on it.

Interesting. Do you know if Robert Pavlitta has published a paper
or intends to? Or is he still working?

He died. You can research him on the web if you want. He is rather famous.
His daughter and the people that worked with them are still alive.
[ I remember years ago I saw a advetisement about a booklet that you could
buy which showed you how to build your own psychotronic generators. It was
either in a novelty magazine or a scientific company book. They said, "this
is frontier science" and "we don't know how these things work". But I wasn't
interested in psychotronic generators at the time and I didn't buy the book.
Later I tried looking for it but couldn't find it.]

Experts agree that UFOs are using some sort of energy field

propulsion.

Note: The bursting of the plant stem nodes in crop circles, diminishes
with 1/r as you get away from the center.

Why would that suggest "energy field propulsion"? You would expect
damage to diminish in such a manner even if it were a rocket ship,
wouldn't you?

You have a silent, floating aircraft, with no propelers or wings and not
shaped aerodynamically, with no exhaust, and it rapidly accelerates away,
that means energy field propulsion. The glow around the whole craft or on
lights around the rim, means energy field propulsion.

Oh! right. I hadn't thought of that.

All known energies diminish with one over distance squared (1/r2), The
effects of psychotronic energy were found to diminish with one over

distance

1/r. That means it is an unknown energy.

Um! yes, I guess it does.

The energetic effects in the crop circles resembles the effects of

this

energy:
Interference with electrical equipment (camera batteries malfunction),
bursting of plant stem nodes as if by heat radiation, unusual spinning

of

compass needles, increased plant growth or decreased plant growth. The
Researches into bio-plasmic energy have found all of these effects

produced

by psychotronic energy, or aura energy.

Couldn't ordinary electromagnetic energy cause all those things?

No. Ordinary electromagnetic energy will show effects while the source of
the energy is near and when the source leaves, the energy effects go

away.

Psychotronic energy will linger for days after the source is gone,

producing

the same effects.

So, it's a kind of radiation?

Proper science is to start with the facts as they are observed. UFOs,

as

observed, appear to be utilizing another dimension.

Explain what you mean by "dimension" - I know of only four and in those,
everything should remain visible.

Another mode of existence occupying the same space as the physical
dimension.

OK.
[...]

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altheim

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