Feb, 11 1949 - Project Grudge Censorship
The order was to put all the Scientist or witness of alien presence in
categories such: mad, paranoic, ignorant, drunk, dreamer, psychopathic
.etc ..etc
from: (dicckk@prodigy.net)
subject: Debunkers are Delusional
newsgroups: alt.paranormal
date: 2001-10-02 17:11:03 PST
I've been observing debunkers on these NGs for at least two years now.
They've always raised my curiosity, especially the more empty-headed
variety who don't even make an attempt at doing less than name calling,
thrwing insult or making inappropriate responses to out-of-contex, or
snipped posts to make some questionable point.
Summed up, debunkers are delusional.
Most of them display characteristics of abused children.
Abused children, once adults simply cannot stand being ignored.
They will go to any lengh to get attention.
No amount of verbal abuse will stop them, no sane or sensible argument,
or even pleading will stop them, nothing can stop them from striking
out, once they see you as reasonable bate, not even violence, the least
of all violance, if you could exact it upon them.
They derive great satisfaction in what they do. It's a need.
The delusional aspect of debunkers is that they don't realize just how
confusing most of us find them.
They sincerely think they are fucking others over, or fucking up one's
day, or winning somehow in a war of words--a war that is
one-sided--their own.
Words are not something they can manage to compose very well.
They hang out in these NGs like a clique of imbeciles, joining forces,
exchanging congratulations, and bragging about imaginary kills.
Some are more dedicated than others, and go to extremes, especially if
they are denied the idea that the person under attack, really doesn't
give a damn.
These types of debunkers are relenteless and vigilant, spending much
time in their effort to denigrate or chastise or name call and insult
posters who they hit on as targets.
Nothing is beyond contempt in the extent they are willing to go to hit
on a prey.
Debunkers have no morals, least of all a coscience.
They are delusional, also in that they think others see them as doing
some kind of human service, or see them as truth mongers, when the
forces behind their acts are anything but truth. But, they sincerely
belive they are doing good. Of course, what they are doing is
misplacing their own personal hate of themselves and using it upon
others.
Possibly they are getting even for never having been accepted in a
normal society. Or, as abused children, never found any kind of helpful
therapy to get over it.
Debunkers are the bane of NGs.
They are delusional and misguided and obsessed with their need to
attack others.
To them, you care if you show no response, and you care if you do.
As a victim of debunkers, it'svery important that you care.
They need to feel they are getting to you. They need to feel that they
are upsetting you, they will call you a liar, and work harder at it.
Debunkers are a maniacal mix of misfits with about as much going for
them as a castrated bull.
Even the more intelligent ones, male or female, keep coming back to
give more abuse. They scout what you post, and pounce. They work in
packs and separately. They are having fun.
Unfortunatelly, even the fun they have is delusional.
Eventually, they become convinced of what becomes a mission, an agenda,
to stike and kill anyone who posts something that is contrary to what
they belive, or prefer to belive, or simply out of because of who said
it, not what is said.
They don't understand that the care most of us have, is the disruption
they create in the NGs, not the personal, unwarranted, as well as
ludicrous attacks.
I mean you realy can't be affronted by morons who make absolutely no
sense in their response to your posts.
Yopu can't be offended when you realize you are dealing with someone
suffering some kind of delusion, or some sort.
Whether debunkers come in the *GUISE* of trolls, those who flame, or
skeptics, the type described here is unsuccessful. In fact, if they had
any brains, they'd be embarrassed.
#Ever notice how they think they are being funny, but the only people
laughing are other debunkers?
#Ever notice how they think they've made some great point or charge of
characters, and the only ones agreeing are other debunkers?
Art is right in wishing for better debunkers. But it's not going to
happen.
#Debunkers are debunkers to be debunkers.
#They wants to destroy any vestige of reasonable debate.
Showing them that you care is best done by understanding these things
about them.
You can't win over them, because they have the delusion that they have
won, even as they fail miserably.
You can ignore them, but that's no guarantee that they will leave
alone, no more than a starving, carnivourous beast can avoid available
flesh when hungry.
They are animals.
They have the instinct of animals. And, they have the delusion of
thinking they qualify as humans.
Sure they will try to make me pay for daring to write this post.
And, no matter how I re-act, no matter what I say, or doesn't say they
will feel vindicated each and every time they attack in the false
belief that I care, or it like a heron addict need a fix.
They are that delusional. Now, if only they could get my name right !
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Nemo_Never wrote:
news:<ce26817e.0407120150.7d508432@posting.google.com>
subject: Let's make some clean up
newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors, alt.alien.research
date:2004-07- 12 02:50:58 PST
I don't see how you can help improve the image of italians you keep
pestering these ngs with nosense, UFO have never landed on earth, deal
with it!
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..improve the image of italians ?
Tell me "nemoever" :
Who cares about an italian with a GED diploma that post in NGs like
alt.alien.visitors about the extraterrestials and UFO's issue ?
I never said that I know the truth.
I never claimed that:
I'm going around in Europe with my personal ..flying saucer.
I just post in these NGs regarding the possible existence of
extraterrestrials in this world or in the universe.
Who will take me as a bad example of italians ?
Will someone take as an example a drunk Irish man and labeled all the
Irish people as drunkers ?
WOW !
About this:
THE TIMES TUESDAY DECEMBER 21 2004
28 WORLD NEWS
In Sicily, a motorway is not build in a day
from Richard Owen
in Rome
A Sicilian motorway from Palermo to Messina, construction of which
began in 1969, will finally be inaugurated today by Silvio Berlusconi.
At 113 miles (183 Km), that represents progress of about 3 miles a
year.
The delay is blamed partly on the alleged siphoning-off of funds and
materials by the Mafia.
The road has cost 730 millions of euros, partly funded by the European
Investiment Bank.
For years it has been shown as a dotted line on Italian maps.
The news magazine PANORAMA said:
"Habemus autostrada" (we have a motorway)
--an ironic reference to the Latin formula used for the eventual
election of a Pope. ..etc..
and:
(Claudio Fava)
"I see no reason to celebrate the inauguration of a motorway after 35
years when in reality it is only half open", he said.
"Since it came to power in 2001 the Berlusconi Government has promise
Sicilians new dams, motorways, ports, and airports.
There is no trace of any of them." ..etc..
and
Piero Grasso, the chief prosecutor in Palermo, said that there was
"not a single public construction project in Sicily in which the
influence of Cosa Nostra is not felt".
Last week prosecutors said that Salvatore Cuffare, President of the
Sicilian region who will cut the tape today with the Italian Prime
Minister --was under investigation for alleged links with mafia, a
charge he denies.
Nota "nemoever" che il giornale, The Times viene distribuito in molte
nazioni.
Nemo_Never wrote:
We know where you're living bast*** mother***
get the point virus pie?
You lying prik! I'll breack your legs you mother***
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Huh ? ..you seems a little upset, what's the matter with you ?
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Nemo_Never wrote:
Hi Pietro,
I am really flattered: in two posts I made your hate list!
Please do not send virii; they won't work for two reasons: my email
provider filters them out and I use Linux.
I have tried really hard to make sense of what you are trying to
convey here, but reading your posts sometimes is as unpleasant as
wading through a pool of vomit, worst of all your pindaric flights
are
all the more illegible.
To sum it up, and please feel free to disagree, I don't think that
there is really a debate on UFOs and the sort; frankly your part has
been asked many times to provide substantiation for their claims,
better people than me have argued ad nauseam with some of your...
league, and the results are always the same: there is no evidence
that
your claims are correct. None at all, zero, zilch. Indeed, I would be
ready to apologise unreservedly, if you were to provide something
concrete to back up your claims... perhaps an alien artefact?
Sorry, I don't have any alien artefact.
I post in these NGs about the extraterrestrials issue.
see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1322432.stm
from the link above:
The campaign belives the US Government has known about the existent of
UFOs fot over 50 years but has been trying to hide it.
see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3707057.stm
from the link above:
Footage released by the Mexican air force is further proof of the
existence of UFOs, an investigators has said.
see: http://ufologie.net/htm/caponi.htm
from the link above:
The Filiberto Caponi's case
Filiberto Caponi was charged with "upsetting" the public due the stir
it had caused and his instant pictures confiscated.
(I wonder why he would do that for ..since he labeled it as a hoax)
So, in one hand the judge claim that those pictures are alterated.
..but, in the other hand the judge do not allow to analize those
pictures instrumentally.
..mmmh
No, "nemoever" I don't have any alien artefact, I just enjoy to post in
alt.aliens.visitors, but please don't be upset with me.
You can post as many fanciful links as you want, but, as long as
these
claims cannot be verified, there is no value or truth in them. You
are
free to believe what you want, but you should be aware that it is
just
that: belief.
When people disagree with you and offer you valid points for you to
reflect upon, like many on these Ngs have done in the past, you
should
at least take notice and examine what they say, there is a good
chance
you may learn something useful and concrete, like reasoning for
instance.
Funny hear that from you.
On another matter, please rest assured that I don't feel humiliated
by
seeing you making a fool of yourself; indeed I am still of the idea
that your behaviour is something which you should rectify asap, as it
projects a bad image to others, reinforcing stereotypes and this,
sadly, has already happened in the past, as some of your posts seem
to
show. You have to excuse me, but your Irishman similitude went
completely over my head.
Finally, I think you overestimate the educational content of Usenet;
if you really want to sharpen your command of English, there are
better tools; they are called books and schools, and the world around
you is full of them. If you want I can provide you with some titles
which could give you a better understanding of the language and a
broader cultural grasp, a nice bonus I believe.
Well, It seems that learn English in Usenet is quite amusing.
Oh, my ! Do you think that the italians will be upset with me too ?
You and your friends are neither but irrelevant, viles, cowards.
Alt.alien.visitors or alt.paranet.ufo is not a newsgroup for people
with mental illness.
For the ammount of the time you spends in usenet, it's obvious you have
no jobs.
Just see drpostman or peter j ross they have no life, it seems that
their job is to post in usenet 24 hr at day ..ring a bell ?
Well., I guess that now I will get another irrelevant fake award from
you and you friends sockpuppets.
It will be an honor.
:P
You have a nice day now.
regards
Pietro Sommavilla