NORIO HAYAKAWA ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS - PART 1
on topics ranging from UFOs, politics, science, religion to music,
etc.
February, 2005
You spent almost 45 years of your life studying reports of UFO
sightings, interviewing hundreds of eyewitnesses, travelling to many
sites of alleged sightings, conducting field investigations, etc.
In other words, you were involved in UFO research for nearly 45 years.
Is this correct?
"Yes, it is correct. I began to get involved in UFO research in
1960. When I was growing up, my father used to tell me of his
sighting of a large "mysterious" greenish object one summer night in
1947 darting across the bay while he was night fishing in Yokohama.
He had seen many meteors in the night skies during his many years of
night fishing in the bay, but that particular sighting in the summer
of 1947 was definitely not a meteor, he used to emphasize to me.
With that kind of a childhood background influence, when I became a
high school student in 1960, I began to participate in several UFO
research groups in Japan.
So you became a believer of UFOs as intelligently controlled
extraterrestrial craft?
"That is correct, I became a strong believer in the existence of UFOs
as extraterrestrial craft monitoring the earth. I began to subscribe
to newsletters and publications of organizations such as N.I.C.A.P.
(National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon) of
Washington, D.C. and A.P.R.O. (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization,
based in Tucson, Arizona."
But now you no longer hold on to that viewpoint. Is this correct?
"That is correct. It was around 1978 that I began to totally
abandon the so-called "ET Hypothesis" of the origins of UFOs."
Have you ever been to Roswell?
"Yes, I used to live in New Mexico and Arizona after moving to the
U.S., from Japan. To be exact, I lived in New Mexico from 1965 to
1973 and in Arizona from 1973 to 1982 and so I've been to many areas
of interest in those states. When I was living in Albuquerque, I came
to know several people who used to tell me about the Manzano Storage
areas next to Kirtland AFB. I visited Roswell on many occasions.
I also visited Whites Sands and the town of Socorro where a patrolman,
Lonnie Zamora, allegedly had in 1964 a CE2 incident (Close Encounter
Type II, i.e., a close range sighting of a UFO on ground, together
with the alleged sighting of its occupant and with an alleged physical
trace (burnt 'landing marks' on the desert) after the object flew
away."
Do you believe that the Roswell incident of 1947 was a crash of an
alien "flying saucer"?
"I do not believe that was the case. I tend to believe that the
Roswell "incident" was a hastily created diversion to draw attention
away from the public scrutiny of some military project gone awry. I
believe that during 1945 (after the end of WWII), 1946 and 1947, there
were several prototypes of experimental aircraft being test-flown in
the American Southwest, including the Muroc Dry Lake (present-day
Edwards AFB) that included prototpyes of "flying wing" aircraft."
What about the allegation that many of today's technologies, such as
computer chips, computers, fiber optics, night vision goggles, lasers,
thermal imaging, composite materials, etc. all came from
back-engineering of items found in the panel of the flying saucer that
crashed near Roswell in 1947? In other words, from "aliens"?
"That is all hogwash. This type of allegations belittles our
scientists. It took years and years of hard work of our scientists
to develop these technolgoies. Initial concepts, basic designs and
prototpyes of today's many technologies did not come suddenly in 1947.
Sorry, they did not come from "aliens". Phil Corso's theories
cannot be taken seriously."
When did you begin to have doubts on the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis
of the origins of UFOs?
"Towards the latter half of the seventies. I began to read books by
John A. Keel and Dr. Jacques Vallee. They influenced my thinking
tremendously. THE EIGHTH TOWER , written by Keel had an impact on
my viewpoints. Vallee's THE EDGE OF REALITY (co-authored with Dr.
Allen Hynek) also really opned my eyes. Consequently I began to
consider the UFO phenomenon not as a uni-dimensional, physical
phenomenon that can be studied and explained by traditional empirical
methodology. I began to consider the phenomenon as part of
"religious" manifestations or "apparitions".
In other words, you do not believe that UFOs and aliens exist?
"I am a skeptic in the sense that I do not believe that UFOs are
physical, extraterrestrial craft maneuvered by extraterrestrial
aliens. The bottom line is that after nearly 60 years or so of the
so-called modern-day era of UFO sightings, we have yet to come up with
any tangible, solid, concrete, physical, irrefutable evidence that we
are being visited by advanced civilizations from elsewhere in the
universe. The bottom line is that unfortunately, we can only rely on
empirical evidence, and so far there is none to substantiate such
allegations."
Have you interviewed many so-called "abductees"?
"Yes, I have intereviewed many so-called "abductees", including the
so-called MILAB cases, cases that allegedly involved military
personnel. On one occasion I interviewed a lady who claimed to have
been abducted by Naval personnel outside Ridgecrest, California, next
to China Lake Naval Weapons Testing Center. She claimed she was
abducted by military personnel and taken to an underground level at
China Lake where she allegedly was tested whether she had any
extra-sensory capabilities to locate "enemy" submarines and other
weapons."
"In Phoenix, Arizona, I interviewed in length a family whose daughter
was allegedly abducted by a hovering circular object in the middle of
a hot summer evening from their swimming pool. This allegedly
involved time loss, i.e., the missing time elapse syndrome. My
belief on "abduction cases" is that the abductees really believe that
they were abducted. It could be a yet unknown psychological
phenomenon of some type. That is my opinion on abductions."
Have you ever had any personal UFO sightings?
"I've had some sightings of things that I could not identify at the
time of such sightings. One night In 1993, around 11:30 p.m., about
5 of us had a sighting of a group of incandescent balls of light that
almost resembled a "string of pearls" exapanding and contracting as it
travelled towards Edwards Air Force Base. We were standing right next
to the fence at a remote radar cross-section test site of Northrop
Grumman, south of Tehachapi Mountains at that moment. However, I
believe that all of my past sightings probably could be explained
through prosaic explanations."
Have you been to Area 51 in Nevada?
"I've never been inside Area 51, if that's what you mean. However, I
have seen the base several times from White Sides as well as from the
"Freedom Ridge" before those hills were closed off to the public in
1994. The sight of the sprawling base from those two hills was
magnificent, to say the least. Moreover, I continued to see the
base several times even after1 1994, this time from the Tikaboo Peak,
which is about 23 miles away. The last time I saw the base from
the distance was in September of 2003. By the way, Area 51 is an
erroneous name of that complex. "Area 51" was never an Air Force
designation. It was a designation used by the Department of Energy.
The correct official name of the base is "an operating base near
Groom Lake." And, to my knowledge, there never have been any
aliens or UFOs at that location. For a history of "Area 51" I
recommend you to go to :
AREA 51 WAS NEVER A SECRET BASE
http://www.hometown.aol.com/groom51s4/page1.html
and read an excellent history written by Peter Merlin. The link to
his article is at the bottom of that article."
When did you start your investigations into Area 51 in Nevada?
"I began to hear of Area 51 actually in 1987. However, it was not
until 1988 that I began to take an interest in that location. For
more on this, you can see the timeline of my involvement there in MY
CONNECTIONS TO THE GROOM LAKE BASE that talks about meeting Bob Lazar,
etc."
http://www.hometown.aol.com/groom51s4/biography.html
Have you been to the alleged underground base in Dulce, New Mexico?
"I was in Dulce in 1990 with a TV crew from Japan to help produce a
documentary on the alleged Dulce base. We spent a few days there
looking for the base (which was allegedly located under Archuleta
Mesa, outside Dulce. However, we could not locate any such base,
partly because some roads leading to the mesa were closed off, due to
snow on the ground. We interviewed many locals, i.e., the Jicarilla
Apache tribe, some of whom claimed to have seen strange lights in the
night skies and some military helicopters in that area especially
during the early eighties, but my conclusion was that there was
nothing solid to substantiate any such allegations. We also talked
with some ranchers in that area, some of whom claimed that some of
their cattle had been mutilated mysteriously, especially during the
early part of the eighties. Again, my conclusion was that there was
nothing solid to substantiate such allegations."
Now, leaving the topic of UFOs for a while, what is the most
important thing in your life?
"The most important thing in my life is to live the life to the
fullest, the precious life which God gave to me. My goal is to live
the life the way God would want me to live. It is not easy. In fact,
it is very difficult to do so. However, I believe that I must do my
best to have a good continual personal relationship with God, through
Jesus Christ."
Are you fulfilling your goal in this regards?
"Well, this is a very difficult thing because we get so attached to
this materialistic world and we are so preoccupied with everything in
this world except our higher calling. This is why without the
guidance of the Holy Spirit, it is very difficult to live the life the
way God would want us to live. Although I fail many times in this
challenge I know that I must try my best every day to please God."
What comes in the order of importance, or priorities?
"In the order of importance, it should be God, family, friends and
country".
Do you consider yourself a Christian?
"I am a Christian only because I believe and accept Jesus Christ as my
personal Savior and Lord, not because of my actions or whether I am a
good or a bad person or whether I go to church or not."
Do you go to church on a regular basis?
"My wife and I have not gone to any church for several years. We
should go to a church regularly, but it is difficult for us to do so,
partly because I work on many weekends."
Are you a citizen of the U.S.A.?
"Yes, I am a citizen of this great nation, the U.S.A.. I was
naturalized in 1976 in Phoenix, Arizona during the year of the
Bicentennial Celebration of the U.S.A. I love this great nation and
I am proud to be a citizen of this great nation. I truly believe
that God has blessed, and will continue to bless the U.S.A., as long
as this nation basically a continue to retain its Christian heritage
and ideals of the founding fathers."
Do you believe that we are living in the "end-time" period?
"We could be living in such period. When Israel became a nation in
1948 it could have signaled the beginning of the last days. I could
be wrong, but we have nothing to lose by believing and hoping that
Jesus will come again very soon. Our duty must be to keep working
diligently, witnessing to everyone we come in contact with to the
power of Christ's love. We must do this until the very moment that
Jesus calls us to heaven, i.e., till the first phase of His Second
Coming. I believe that there are two phases of the Second Coming of
Jesus Christ. The first phase is the Rapture when He meets us in
mid-air. The second phase is when Jesus will descend on earth (in
Israel, at the Battle of Armaggedon) with his saints and heavenly
host.
Do you believe in the coming Rapture and in the coming Millenial
Reign of Christ?
"Yes, I believe in the coming Rapture, although the word itself is
not in the Bible. I believe that born-again believers will be
translated instantaneously (i.e.,"taken up", moved from one side to
the other side, or, from the earthly plane to the heavenly dimension)
and will meet the Lord in mid-air. In other words, in the "twinkling
of an eye", our physical bodies will go through a mysterious, sudden
transmogrification and will be lifted up and meet the Lord in mid-air.
It almost sounds like a science fiction, but that is my personal
belief as well as the personal beliefs of millions of believers on
this planet. I believe that we will be "evacuated" en masse to escape
the Tribulation Period on earth. This obviously has not happened yet
in history, but I believe that this incident could be the next main
event in God's prophetic calendar or timeline. When we (the bride)
meet the Lord (the Groom) in mid-air, there will be a 7-day "wedding
celebrations" (equivalent of 7 earthly years), immediately after which
the believers, with the host of heaven led by Christ, will descend on
Israel at the Battle of Armaggedon, immediately after which there will
be a 1000 year reign of Christ from Israel."
What are your thoughts on the Anti-Christ, the New World Order, the
Second Coming of Christ and Armaggedon?
"Yes, those are fascinating topics. I will answer the questions
relevant to those topics in PART 2 of QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS." I
will also talk about Israel and the Palestinians, Iraq, President
Bush's Middle East policies, China and all other related topics in
PART 2, as well as some more "UFOs".
NORIO HAYAKAWA ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS - PART 2
on topics ranging from UFOs, politics, science, religion to music,
etc.:
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