Re: debunkers-scarecrows
Subject: Re: debunkers-scarecrows
From: Kali
Date: 16/02/2005, 05:05
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.research,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell

In article <140220052224193909%art_deco@127.0.0.1>, posted Mon, 
14 Feb 2005 22:24:19 -0700, Art Deco art_deco@127.0.0.1 says...

Pietro Sommavilla <delendaest@msn.com> wrote:

again?

Newsgroups restored:

Kali wrote:

NOTE: I will only reply to the "Professor" Kali

Yes, Professor Kali is here for you, Pietro.

..good, any evidences of me as an abuser of usenet ?

You tell me.
/evasion noted again/

Just what is it that I am evading Pietro? If you want me to 
review the evidence, then present it already. 
 
Ladies and Gentlemen please ..read below:
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from: Kali <Kali@lart.meow>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Linda Gore's Speech, was: Re:Winners! Usenet kooksAwards,
December 2004
Message-ID: <MPG.1c4aeaa156adca398ae1f@news.east.earthlink.net>

The awards granted by alt.usenet,kooks are the official Usenet kook
awards, Linda.
They were not created for the purpose of devaluing acts of kindness.
They were created, and are maintained, for the purpose of recognizing
abusive posters.
Your fellow nominees are liars, bigots, frauds, forgers, defamers,
screed spammers, people who falsely accuse others of stalking when they
themselves are the stalkers, etc.
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Now, can you (and your AUK friends) show your evidences against me.

Ladies and Gentlemen please note:

# In one hand kali says: they harrass me because:
  I'm a liar, fraud, forger, defamer, spammer ..etc..etc

I wasn't addressing your personal style, Pietro. I just know 
that when I read down the list of kooks and think about how 
they got on that list, a pattern emerges. 

Are you a liar? Fraud? Forger? Defamer? Spammer? 

You tell me. 
 
# On the other hand, when I asked to kali: "Where are your evidences
against me"
   kali replyed: "you tell me"

Good boy. So - tell me. 
 
What you and your friends gonna do now kali ?
Will you and your AUK friends threaten me to break my legs or give me
one of your (promoting hate)awards ?

Who wants to break your legs? 

I bet that you busted out of a mental institute.

Is that what you really think? 

or nemo_newer the
coward, the other trolls with their sockpuppets will be
ignored,
'cause
they do not want (they cannot) discuss any serious issues.

I'm willing to seriously discuss any serious issue.

..do you want discuss your alleged (AUK) evidences against me ?

Show me the data, Pietro.
/diversion noted again/

I'm a scientist, I want the evidence. Where is it? 
 
You and your AUK friends are the one who's claiming that I'm an usenet
abuser.
On what evidences you and your AUk friends 'awarded' me ?
Show and discuss your evidences.
You from AUK harrassed, threaten, stalked, and verbally
abused me.

Have I?

Evasion noted "Professor" kali, it's not about you per se, it's
about
you from AUK.

..aren't you from AUK "Professor"  kali ?

I post to AUK sometimes, but it is not my home group.

..but you said in short that AUk awards were created for the purose of
recogniting abusive posters.

I don't really know if it is anyone's "home" group, as a matter of
fact.

(I note that you have evaded the challenge by trying to turn it back on
me)

This entire series of posts is pretty much all about you, is it 
not? 
 
You and your AUK friends are the ones that claiming:
UV #27 points, hammers of thors, you vote, you harrass, you calling
names, etc.

Where is my chocolate, Pietro?  

You claimed your right (AUK people) to abuse other posters isn't
the
truth ?

I never claim the right to abuse others, but I do claim the
right to say what I want about people's behavior and ridicule
bullies and abusers.

Good, you have your chance to prove that; show those evidences against
me.

I personally don't have any, except for this thread, and 
perhaps something I've seen in the past that I don't recall. 

Where is my chocolate? 

The point is that when you cannot win an argument you resort to: evade
answers, flood usenet with your irrelevant nominations/awards, call me
names, harrass me, threaten me.. you promoting hate against me isn't ?
What kind of people are you ?

What kind of people are *you*? 

Admission of your fanboi status noted, Pietro.

These are just a couple of evidences against you:

news:<ce26817e.0407120150.7d508432@posting.google.com>


http://groups.google.it/groups?q=g:thl1997209306d&dq=&hl=it&lr=&selm=110267759
0.172526.289130%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

Note: in the links above nemo_never :
# stalked (he posted my yahoo profiles)
# verbally abuse me
# harrassed me
# threaten to kill me.

..aren't the links above for real ?
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I asked you in date: feb, 11, 2005
 Show your evidences against me "Professor" kali.

Gosh, I don't know about "evidences".

Then why you defame me in usenet "Professor" kali..

Have I defamed you? Did you once have fame?

Your AUK friends *defame* me.

What are your damages, Pietro? Did the government pull their 
funding from your Dogon research because of Usenet? 

Isn't the truth that you called me child molester and drug dealer
?

No, that is a lie. Are you a liar?

Evasion noted. 

Dec, 12, 2004
subject: the liars, viles, cowards, debunkers trolls
newsgroups:alt.alien.visitors
nemo_never wrote:
The notorios drug dealer and virri spreader known as P***  S*****
We saw you sell illegal drugs, you deserve prison.
you accused me to be s child mol***
I looked up in the dictionary and it had your picture with that line
next to it
http://profile. ****com/p

what kind of fun is that "Professor" ?

I don't know. What kind of fun is that, Pietro? 

I don't know, you'd have to ask the people who called you a
child molester/drug dealer. It's not my style to sling those
labels without credible evidence(s).

The point is that *you* from AUK are promoting hate against me, you are
defaming me
isn't it ?

Why a NG like AUK is still up "Professor" kali ?

Are you planning to destroy AUK?

..moi ? ..You can do it by yourself, please keep up the good work !
 ;)

I note that you don't
know how to use a killfile

..killfile ?
Why should I cover your illegal activity up, on google groups
"Professor"  kali ?

Btw, how would your use of a killfile cover up illegal 
activity, huh?

Illegal activity on Google Groups?

Your friends from AUK continue to harrass, threaten and stalk me in
usenet.

Call the police, Pietro.

..should I ?

Yes, if there is a crime, you should call them. 

(Why should you accept responsibility for your Usenet
experience?)

Please, stop making lame excuses troll boy.

Gosh, I've never been called troll boy before. So tell me, how 
can my suggestion that you accept responsibility for your 
Usenet experience be construed as a lame excuse for anything? 
 
and you dance like a monkey on crack
when someone teases you. You appear to lack critical thinking
skills.

Why you harrass me "Professor" kali ?

Do I? Right now it looks like you're harassing me. How do you
like them apples?

You are the one that said:
"AUK awards were created for the purpose of recognizing abusive
posters"

I just replied to your post: "show your evidences" ..abusive troll boy.

Oh, now I'm an "abusive troll boy". 
 
You cling to your kooky alien agenda at all costs, and
get nasty when someone debunks your bogus claims.

I live in a free country "Professor" kali, and I'm free to post in
alt.alien.visitors or or alt.fair.tales, without being verbally
abuse
or threaten from you from AUK.

Other people have the same rights as you. You are free to make
your kooky klaims and get nasty, and others are free to comment
on them, laugh at them, and make parodies about them. If you
are so sensitive, ignore your detractors. But that isn't any
fun to do, is it, Pietro?

So, now you say in short:
Since we cannot win an argument, we have the right
(debunkers-dicredit-job)
to go on a world wide networked usenet and try to discredit me, by call
me names
and defame me, and that's ok  ..because you from AUK are trolls.

Hey, if your theories are debunked, that's just the way it 
goes. A lot of theories and their proponents are discredited 
for good reason. I take it your evidence is not very compelling 
to most people? 

You missed the ball kali, but now you blame the whole thing on me.

It is I who is blaming things on you, and not the other way 
around?

Pietro, where is my chocolate? 
 
Anyway, you've admited that you are trolls ..thanks.
:P

Actually, I'm not a troll. What do you make of that? 
 
With all due respect "Professor" kali:
If do not belive in ETs or UFOs why you bother to reply to my
posts ?

I think that stuff is a silly crock of shit, propagated by fear
mongers and gullible rubes.

I respect your point of view.

You say that, but your behavior in this thread tells a 
different story. 

Where is your evidence?

Huh ?
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I posted several times about these issues:

There are plenty of ETs evidences.
The Dogon did not have any hi teach tools ..but:
http://crystalinks.com/dogon2.html

So Sirius is at the center of Dogon mythology, and these myths 
include stories about alien visitors. This hardly constitutes 
compelling evidence.  
 
Pleistocene Artifacts:
http://uplink.space.com/printthread.php?Cat=&Board=seti&main=117421&type=post

I can think of more plausible alternative explanations on this 
one. Can't you? 
 
A 3600 years old artefact concrete rapresentation of the stars in the
world:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/hpohland/docs/Nebra.html

Wonderful artifact. How is this evidence of ETs? 

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You dit not discuss the issues but instead start to call me names.
What is has to do with alt.alien.visitors ?

You called on me and I responded to you. So you tell me, what 
does this have to do with aav? 

And... where is my chocolate? I distinctly remember setting 
down this requirement as an exchange for my continued attention 
to your issues. 
 
You honestly don't expect to *not* be called on it, do you? If you
didn't want responses, or you want to censor the responses you
get, just set up a web site. Usenet is for free discussion.

..free to verbally abuse other posters ?

Your reply are always off topic,

This is just a lie. Where they right about you, that you lie? 

 you are pestering ngs with your
senseless drivels about nominations and awards.

Am I now? 

I'm pretty sure that you will do it again, (after this reply to you)
because I replied to you (a troll), which give you the right to do it
..isn't.

Do you feel that you deserve some kind of an award?

Who gives you the permit to slander me on google groups ?

Have I slandered you on Google Groups?

Your AUK friends did.

Who are my friends? 

You use the word debunker like Wollmann uses the word spinic,
and you
think
that is some kind of an insult. More than your kooky ideas
about the Dogon, etc.,

You just have your point of "view" about the Dogon and the
Sumerians...
but ..
the fact that I disagree with you, do not authorize you and your
AUK
friends  to harrass me on usenet.
Why you do not ignore me instead ?

Why you do not ignore people who disagree with you if it's a
problem for you to hear what they say?

This is what I will do from now on.

Wise. Have you started yet? 
 
You do know what a kill file is, don't you?

..killfile someone ? Who you think am I ? ..a coward ?

It is not about cowardice. It is about assuming responsibility 
for the way you experience Usenet. 

your reaction to criticism has won you
mucho awards.

The point is that you (AUK) and your awards, are promoting hate
against
me "Professor" kali.

I don't hate you, Pietro. I find you somewhat amusing, though.

Good ! ..at least entertain someone.

Where is my chocolate, Pietro? 
 
My reactions to criticism ?
I was just mirroring your attitude back to you .ring a bell
"Professor"
kali ?

Actually, no.

Well...

Well, what? 

I don't know why anyone would say that they want
to kill you. I imagine most people just find your reactions
amusing.

My reaction ? to what ?
What about if I'm gonna tell you:
"we know where you live" "bast*** mothe*** we gonna kill you"

Is that what someone said to you? I think that's pretty
extreme.

Ok.

What about if I'm gonna post your pubblic profile in usenet and
accusing you to be a child molester ?
About that "Professor" kali ?

The key word here is "public". Are you, indeed, a child
molester? Drug dealer? What is the evidence? If there isn't
any, then you would have a libel case, if you and the other
person both lived in the US.

Ok.

Note: Today is feb, 12, 2005
 NO RESPONSE (only some irrelevants babbling from other trolls)

I asked you once again "Professor" kali:
Show your evidences against me.

[....................]

(What's that ? ..I think I heard a toilet flush again)
:P

How come you keep putting your head in the toilet and flushing?

..obsess much ?
 :P

Only over chocolate. 
 
This is what you call a "serious issue," Pietro?

Pietro, I hope this has helped you.

You are defaming me in usenet "Professor" kali.

Ah, no, I'm not. But I suspect you do a fine job of it
yourself.

You are a master of disguise "Professor" kali.

Only to those who choose to use me as a reflecting pond.
 
My real name and last name is displayed in usenet
(http://www.lart.com)
"Professor" kali.

And where your name is displayed, are there lies told about
you, or are your very own words quoted?

The point is that you (from AUK) are promoting hate against me
"Professor" kali.

No, that's not the point at all. I asked you if your own words 
are quoted. If they are, and you are ashamed of them, that is 
quite a different matter than someone telling stories about 
you. 

This is an example how much further people can go when they feel
justified.
They read your posts/web pages against me, so they feel the right to
abuse me on usenet.
About that "Professor" kali ?

You think that the act of challenging your claims and laughing 
at your silly ideas is something that someone must be told to 
do by others? Everywhere you go, Pietro, there you are. 

Where is my chocolate? 

You (your friends of AUK) are promoting hate against me on google
groups
"Professor" kali.

If you want me to assume responsibility for AUK postings
regarding you, you'll need to address me as "The Omnipotent and
Benevolent Goddess, Troika Woman, Kali" and I also demand the
appropriate worship, gifts, and groveling. And chocolate. Lots
of chocolate.

You are neither but an irrelevant troll "Professor£ kali.

I note your uncooperative attitude. This is unfortunate for 
you, in light of your continuing requests for my attention. 
 
You and your friends are sick "Professor" kali.
I'm abused from mentally disturbed people on google groups
"Professor"
kali
and the funny thing is that google groups doesn't care.

Google/AOL don't seem to care about much of anything, including
their own TOS.

That's a shame.

Please feel free to call on
me again, any time you need assistance.

Indeed, you and your friends of AUK are the one who realy need
assistence (medical assistence)"Professor" kali

Kali

AUK should be banned from usenet for promoting hate against
people.

Pietro, do you always confuse laughter at your expense for
hate?

The case is closed "Professor" kali.

I'm afraid so. No chocolate for me, no biscuit for you. 
 
About that "Professor" kali ?

Excellent foam and froth, Pietro.  You may continue kookdancing.

Sometimes it jumps up in your lap, begging for a biscuit!

The Omnipotent Goddess Kali
Troika Woman of AUK and Holy Mother of its Posters
I am Not Brad #999
Peter Hood #4
Mistress of the Master of the Inverted Buckeyball
--
I like to keep an open mind, but not so open my brains fall
out. - Arthur Sulzberger, Chairman, New York Times

You have a nice day now "Professor" kali.

Thank you. 
 
Pietro Sommavilla


Still snecking groups that Kali reads, coward?  Your hinie must still
be hurting from your last Kali paddling.

And still, no chocolate!

Kali
-- I like to keep an open mind, but not so open my brains fall out. - Arthur Sulzberger, Chairman, New York Times