Re: Boeing/TRW Phantom Works and COLUMBIA (laser cannon trackingand test firing)
Subject: Re: Boeing/TRW Phantom Works and COLUMBIA (laser cannon trackingand test firing)
From: josephus
Date: 03/04/2005, 07:24
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.alien.visitors,alt.ufo.reports,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.kooks


Brad Guth wrote:

> "++The Commentator++; Deviated pervert!
>
> What the heck happened?
>
> I thought that I was the one and only village idiot moron that your
> all-knowing collective simply couldn't assimilate into your 'Skull and
> Bones' borg hive of disinformation-R-us spooks.



Oh No you are the one and only village idiot and moron.

>
> Just because I happen know of what's possible and that I also know that
> Boeing/TRW and their Phantom Works wizards had the means, certainly the
> opportunity and God knows the DoD contracted motivation to boot, that
> still doesn't mean they intended to take out the Columbia shuttle,
> although accidents do seem to happen more frequently than in the good
> old days when you had to look the other guy straight in the eye before
> you pulled the trigger.
>
   Let me count the ways you have lied in the above paragraph
It implies culpability to people that were just doing their job the best  that they could. But it does not excuse those Who caused the Challenger accident.  The engineers were ignored.  The furor afterward cause many or even most of the players to be blackballed.  You know that the finger pointing was anywhere but where it was deserved.  The fact that a controversial action was outed and Nasa's people that agreed were embarrassed and some were charged with reckless endangerment.  This does not mean Nasa is corrupt. But it does mean secrets are not really possible. It means Moon Hoaxers haven't got a prayer in Hell.  A secret that vast could not be kept secret anywhere. If they did not cover up the Chanlleger gaff. How would 150000 people keep a secret.

       josephus
< restored context>

> Again; where's your Dr. Death (Henry Kissinger) these days?
>
> Probably hiding out with warlord 2nd in command Cheney and Osama bin
> Laden, and right nextdoor to all of those WMD, thus couldn't be any
> safer than that.
>
   Show us any documented proof.  Your assertion is not proof.

> -
>
> This is my usual closing rant that's contributed for the ongoing
> benefit of others (The New York Times, The Washington Post and any
> other news media plus whatever general topic newcomers), and not that
> any of this topic matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside
> of whatever appeases their MI6/NSA pagan NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust
> God(s), as in spite of their spermware worth of their nastiest flak
> having the intent as to kill-off my PC if not myself, within my spare
> dyslexic time I've slightly polished on my external 'gv-topics.htm'
> page, and I'm remaining intent upon working on other pages as soon to
> be improved. As I learn more that can be independently supported by the
> regular laws of physics, by sufficient hard-science and subjectively
> honest interpretations of whatever I have been given to work with, as
> best I'll share that knowledge, which will likely include revisions and
> retractions upon any number of what I've offered thus far.
> Unfortunately, since I'm unfunded and on the usual 'need-to-know' bases
> with regard to anything that might rock a mainstream boat, and that my
> PC is being continually attacked with NSA/MI6 spermware, it seems this
> process is going to take many thousands of my lose cannon shots before
> the truth and nothing but the truth is ever going be told. And I bet
> you thought the likes of big and fully loaded aircraft smashing into
> fully occupied tall buildings was as bad as it gets; think again.


It is possible that your dyslexia causes you to not be able to read real  sources.  And that is why you make things up out of whole cloth.

>
> Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
> http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
> Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator):
> http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
> Other available topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
> http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
>
    I vote to have marked as a K00K and a LOKI and a TROLL.
     You run away from treads like one of them.
            josephus

Brad Guth wrote:
Dear incest cloned borg 'josephus',
With my honest though somewhat dyslexic regard to the likes of
hard-science that's supposedly 'repeatable', for some god damn reason
there's still nothing interactive that survived the horrific impact of
getting vaporised into the moon.

NASA/Apollo was just another small incest puppet of what's MI6/NSA, of
their perpetrated cold-war for global pillaging and profits at the
demise of others, and clearly you don't give a tinkers damn, and
especially if that's on behalf of anything Islamic or Muslim, thus
obviously you're a certified Jew and/or another Pope lover depending
upon which end of your incest DNA that you're willing to share.

BTW; I've checked and rechecked into the SMART-1 data and lo and
behold, as usual their evidence exclusions are running amuck. Of
whatever hard-science is either moderated and/or entirely missing from
action, as their SMART-1 information simply hasn't been mainstream
flowing from my perspective, and why do these fool borgs keep harping
on the contents of whatever was supposedly imaged upon the surface of
the moon, as the unfiltered Kodak eye and of the Kodak photographic
physics is simply skewed entirely into the nearest space-toilet, as in
no freaking way in holy hell did such an unfiltered Kodak eye fail to
record the near-blue (blacklight affect) as easily generated by the
near-UV and UV/a level of energy that was offering such a good 256 fold
greater intensity/m2 than here upon the surface of Earth, not to
mention the little dusty matter of the meters thick carbon soot like
environment that was never depicted as looking anything like the images
obtained from the 100+KM orbits of the moon, of which our NASA/Apollo
did in fact orbit the moon as they took those terrific picture
(thousands of them) depicting a dark and otherwise razor sharp but
dusty environment.

There has been several NASA certified images as obtained from various
other than Apollo orbits that depicts their supposed soft-landing zones
as oddly 3~5% albedo for a diameter of several hundred meters. Asking
these fool borgs to show us a surface obtained image of whatever was
under and/or surrounding those undocumented fly-by-rocket landers that
couldn't possibly have worked without summarily vaporising upon impact
is like asking for ice upon the surface of the moon, or even within the
moon.

In direct relationship to those 80~85% reflective moonsuits, and by
numerous other artificial and thereby known reflective index items, I
saw most what was of a lunar terrain which offered a 55% albedo index,
and I guess I simply never realized the surface of that moon was so
darn bright, but now we know.............LLPOF..............

Those retro-reflectors simply do NOT exist, and even if they did,
they'd be thoroughly covered with electrostatic charged carbon dark and
nasty moon-dust, and/or impact destroyed long before now.

Even a full m2 worth of clean retro-reflector is providing absolutely
no contest for the 25%~50% IR albedo of the moon itself. Using a 404 nm
or even a 450 nm laser of 0.05 milliradian is about as good as it'll
take, however not even our lethal 0.5 milliradian worth of 100 MW as
from our Boeing/TRW Phantom Works ABL while cruising along at 40,000'
is not going to confirm upon one stinking lunar retro-reflector, and
that's another matter of your bloody perpetrated cold-war fact.

A 1° xenon strobe, as a signal transponder wouldn't have weighed a
tenth as much, not taken up a forth the space (including it's PV
cells), and that sort of basic instrument would have been easily
detectable by amateurs while the moon was within less than earthshine
illumination.

Now it seems that our MI6/NSA NASA has their very own incest cloned
microbes as boosted upon the horrific UV energy/m2 that apparently
didn't exist at the time of their efforts, as such UV boosted microbes
are now eating moon rocks and perhaps eating the remains of those
Apollo missions that should have mostly vaporised upon impact after
diving through deep carbon-soot-like and solar wind infused moon-dust
that doesn't exactly clump.

Is this topic another one of your official 'space-toilet physics joke'
or what?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/6458139effdc0fc0/121a72e41e25329e#121a72e41e25329e

Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050328/full/050328-10.html

If you must insist upon using your intellectual butt-crack flatulence
as for arguing over those phony baloney surface obtain and optically
unfiltered Kodak moments that were somehow entirely unaffected by all
of the near-UV and UV/a energy/m2 and substantial worth of
secondary/recoil photons, then please do have yourself another freaking
look-see at what this author has to say without his ever regarding the
near-UV or UV/a factors or of what 'tj Frazir' has to say about the
moon atmosphere and of all that nasty dust that just will not go away;

Jack White's Apollo Studies - Index 1
http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_index1.html

Bush to Withdraw from Outer Space Treaty, Annex the Moon
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/9ef4db7ba05070f6/04fc3aee83588590#04fc3aee83588590

josephus, 'Show us any documented proof.  Your assertion is not proof'
that we've safely fly-by-rocket landed upon and essentially walked
naked upon the moon.

'Show us any documented proof.  Your assertion is not proof' that our
government within their cloak and dagger process of perpetrating their
cold-war never once lied their stinking butts off whenever that action
would have otherwise only have improved our odds of outsnookering them
dirty rotten Russians that were doing the very same damn thing.

'Show us any documented proof.  Your assertion is not proof' that your
conditional laws of physics work entirely differently upon the moon as
well as upon Venus, thus you're suggesting by purely speculation that
we've walked upon the moon yet there's no life possible regardless of
whatever geological timeline, evolution or even that of applied
technology on behalf of visiting ETs to have been making even a tough
go of it upon Venus.

BTW; I can show you documented proof as to what a 'STINGER" that's
easily capable of bringing down TWA flight-800 would have accomplished
without ever penetrating (which isn't what they do anyway), and even
more proof as to why and how the manifesto of the TWA Tel Aviv
departure as for being the intended target vanished into thin air in
exactly the same way as for those that saw what was most likely the
STINGER trail were being summarily denied their right of testifying,
just as those prisoners of the 6-Day war began to vanished shortly
before our USS LIBERTY tactical and intelligence support ship was
getting it's butt blown to bits by concerned Jews, and actually by a
good number of concerned Americans along with the likes of Dr.
Death(Henry Kissinger) as for attempting to look good as possible in
the Arab oil-R-us eyes. And it seems the perpetrated cold-war beat goes
on and on.

BTW No.2; way more than haft of those upon Death Row are there and/or
having been exterminated as based entirely upon 'assertions'. How many
tens of thousands of Islamic and Muslims are now dead and/or about to
die because of the WMD 'assertions' of our resident warlord(GW Bush)?

Clearly a certain Pope made way more than his fair share of
'assertions' with regard to Cathars.

What per say is you personal problem with 'assertions' being applied on
behalf of the positive side of a given argument?

Or, are you sticking with the DNA likes of a certain Pope, Hitler and
that of GW Bush until those Apollo cows come home?

-

This closing rant is contributed for the ongoing benefit of others (The
New York Times, The Washington Post and any other news media plus
whatever general topic newcomers), and not that any of this topic
matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside of whatever
appeases their MI6/NSA pagan NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust God(s), as in
spite of their spermware of flak having the intent as to kill-off my PC
if not myself, within my spare dyslexic time I've slightly polished on
my external 'gv-topics.htm' page, and I'm remaining intent upon working
on other pages as soon to be improved. As I learn more that can be
independently supported by the regular laws of physics, by sufficient
hard-science and subjectively honest interpretations of whatever I have
been given to work with, as best I'll share that knowledge, which will
likely include revisions and retractions upon any number of what I've
offered thus far. Unfortunately, since I'm unfunded and on the usual
'need-to-know' bases with regard to anything that might rock a
mainstream boat, and that my PC is being continually attacked with
NSA/MI6 spermware, it seems this process is going to take many
thousands of my lose cannon shots before the truth and nothing but the
truth is ever going be told. And I bet you thought the likes of big and
fully loaded aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings was
as bad as it gets; think again.

Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator):
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Other available topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


The surest sign of a LOKI is the mindless parroting of gibberish and ignoring real communication.  You belong in Alt.kooks
           josephus