Re: You Don't Have To 'Believe' In UFOs Any Longer

In article <r0j2811a4d9npdl3rurv5eo9b5qvrkdc3j@4ax.com>, GM@ga7rm5er.com 
says...


On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:32:59 +0000 (UTC), kiwi@ing.notin.aus (Your
Name Here=Harvey) wrote:

In article <fcdk51l3s47hgduidq6j8n7i20a18ppaiv@4ax.com>, GM@ga7rm5er.com 
says...


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:11:39 +0000 (UTC), kiwi@ing.notin.aus (Your
Name Here=Harvey) wrote:

See

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/30/28149.html

The map of "the Creator"

A find of Bashkir scientists contraries to traditional notions of human 
history: stone slab which is 120 million years covered with the relief map

of

Ural Region. 

This seems to be impossible. Scientists of Bashkir State University have

found

indisputable proofs of an ancient highly developed civilization-s

existence.

The question is about a great plate found in 1999, with picture of the

region

done according to an unknown technology. This is a real relief map.

Today-s

military has almost similar maps. The map contains civil engineering

works:

system of channels with a length of about 12,000 km, weirs, powerful dams.

Not

far from the channels, diamond-shaped grounds are shown, whose destination

is

unknown. The map also contains some inscriptions. Even numerous

inscriptions.

At first, the scientists thought that was Old Chinese language. Though, it 
turned out that the subscriptions were done in a hieroglyphic-syllabic 
language of unknown origin. The scientists never managed to read it- 

?The more I learn the more I understand that I know nothing,� v the doctor

of

physical and mathematical science, professor of Bashkir State University, 
Alexander Chuvyrov admits. Namely Chuvyrov made that sensational find.

Already

in 1995, the professor and his post-graduate student from China Huan Hun 
decided to study the hypothesis of possible migration of Old Chinese 
population to the territory of Siberia and Ural. In an expedition to 
Bashkiria, they found several rock carvings done in Old Chinese language. 
These finds confirmed the hypothesis of Chinese migrants. The

subscriptions

were read. They mostly contained information about trade bargains,

marriage

and death registration. 


Though, during the searches, notes dated the 18th century were found in 
archives of Ufa governor-general. They reported about 200 unusual stone

slabs

which were situated not far from the Chandar village, Nurimanov Region. 
Chuvyrov and his colleague at once decided that slabs could be connected

with

Chinese migrants. Archive notes also reported that in 17th-18th centuries, 
expeditions of Russian scientists who investigated Ural Region had studied

white slabs with signs and patterns, while in early 20th century, 
archaeologist A.Schmidt also had seen some white slabs in Bashkiria. This

made

the scientist start the search. In 1998, after having formed a team of his 
students, Chuvyrov launched the work. He hired a helicopter, and the first 
expedition carried a flying around of the places where the slabs were

supposed

to be. Though, despite all efforts, the ancient slabs were not found.

Chuvyrov

was very upset and even thought the slabs were just a beautiful legend. 

This is only a one ton artefact = proof.

Harvey



Thanks for the link.

Much more interesting than the 6:00pm news.


There is a lot at this site you may find of interest? too...

http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html

Harvey



Thanks very much, Harvey.

I've bumped into a lot of similar infomation over the years while
researching UFOs on the internet.

Relating to your links ....
this man Sheldan Nidle says we humans were invaded by physical and/or
multi dimensional entities in the past.

http://paoweb.com/updates.htm

See the links ....

Update for May 3, 2005
Update for Apr. 26, 2005
Update for Apr. 19, 2005
Update for Apr. 12, 2005 
Update for Apr. 5, 2005 
Update for Mar. 29, 2005 

True information or not, it makes an excellent read.

These free audio files are much more interesting...

http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_wendelle_stevens.htm


I'll get around to checking those sites/etc out. Thanks.

It is interesting to note, what people think, who have been interested
in this field/area, a long, long, long time.
For a long time, I felt that nothing much was happening in this area
of information (not that I was clued up to what really was happening
in the world, etc, relying upon the general media, for any updates) but
there has been a release of information in the last 10? years.
And finally there has been confirmation from different sources, of
what has been kept secret from 'us' (the general population) for so long.
eg. The Disclosure Project, Phil Schneider (and other similar sources),
Billy Meier, etc.

I have been interested in this area for over 30 years. It is not just
about 'UFOs' - it is much more than that.
I think a classic book is the 1956 book 'The Case For the UFO' by
M K Jessup, then there's the engimatic 'The Annotated Edition of "The
Case for the UFO"'.
We are all in pursuit of the 'truth' - but in order to receive and
perceive the truth, you must be open and impartial -- because the
truth may very well be very startling and shocking --- because what
has been presented as the truth to us, today - is not.
And the reason why we are not given the truth, is that our establishments
of authority (academic, political, religious, governmental, etc etc) are
not truthful unto themselves. We have to recognise that all of these
are run and controlled by men (very few women are in positions of power
and authority), and are very much human. They are subject to the frailities
of greed for power and control, they can put on a front and hide behind it,
thinking they are safe and secure in whatever they like to do.
And that is why we have distortions in all of those establishments, and
inconsistancies, because of the lack of integrity, sincerity, genuiness
and honesty.

People may very well reject the Talmud Jmmanuel text, and the information
from Billy Meier - but if you wish to know the truth, I suggest that they
ought to be checked out thoroughly. Not just reviews about Billy Meier, but
check out the actual information given out by Billy Meier, himself.
See what the Plejaren message is. And you will see why I have gone on a bit
in the above personal message, I had written.

There are a lot of people guessing at what the truth is.
Some of what they say may be true, and some may not be.
It would be nice to have a source who can help us all decide what is
more likely to be true - that is why I think the Plejaren material is
so important. A healthy skepticism is good, but blind skepticism is not.

Harvey