On Wed, 11 May 2005 23:23:38 +0000 (UTC), kiwi@ing.notin.aus (Your
Name Here=Harvey) wrote:
In article <r0j2811a4d9npdl3rurv5eo9b5qvrkdc3j@4ax.com>, GM@ga7rm5er.com
says...
On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:32:59 +0000 (UTC), kiwi@ing.notin.aus (Your
Name Here=Harvey) wrote:
In article <fcdk51l3s47hgduidq6j8n7i20a18ppaiv@4ax.com>, GM@ga7rm5er.com
says...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:11:39 +0000 (UTC), kiwi@ing.notin.aus (Your
Name Here=Harvey) wrote:
See
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/30/28149.html
The map of "the Creator"
A find of Bashkir scientists contraries to traditional notions of human
history: stone slab which is 120 million years covered with the relief map
of
Ural Region.
This seems to be impossible. Scientists of Bashkir State University have
found
indisputable proofs of an ancient highly developed civilization-s
existence.
The question is about a great plate found in 1999, with picture of the
region
done according to an unknown technology. This is a real relief map.
Today-s
military has almost similar maps. The map contains civil engineering
works:
a
system of channels with a length of about 12,000 km, weirs, powerful dams.
Not
far from the channels, diamond-shaped grounds are shown, whose destination
is
unknown. The map also contains some inscriptions. Even numerous
inscriptions.
At first, the scientists thought that was Old Chinese language. Though, it
turned out that the subscriptions were done in a hieroglyphic-syllabic
language of unknown origin. The scientists never managed to read it-
?The more I learn the more I understand that I know nothing,¦ v the doctor
of
physical and mathematical science, professor of Bashkir State University,
Alexander Chuvyrov admits. Namely Chuvyrov made that sensational find.
Already
in 1995, the professor and his post-graduate student from China Huan Hun
decided to study the hypothesis of possible migration of Old Chinese
population to the territory of Siberia and Ural. In an expedition to
Bashkiria, they found several rock carvings done in Old Chinese language.
These finds confirmed the hypothesis of Chinese migrants. The
subscriptions
were read. They mostly contained information about trade bargains,
marriage
and death registration.
Though, during the searches, notes dated the 18th century were found in
archives of Ufa governor-general. They reported about 200 unusual stone
slabs
which were situated not far from the Chandar village, Nurimanov Region.
Chuvyrov and his colleague at once decided that slabs could be connected
with
Chinese migrants. Archive notes also reported that in 17th-18th centuries,
expeditions of Russian scientists who investigated Ural Region had studied
200
white slabs with signs and patterns, while in early 20th century,
archaeologist A.Schmidt also had seen some white slabs in Bashkiria. This
made
the scientist start the search. In 1998, after having formed a team of his
students, Chuvyrov launched the work. He hired a helicopter, and the first
expedition carried a flying around of the places where the slabs were
supposed
to be. Though, despite all efforts, the ancient slabs were not found.
Chuvyrov
was very upset and even thought the slabs were just a beautiful legend.
This is only a one ton artefact = proof.
Harvey
Thanks for the link.
Much more interesting than the 6:00pm news.
There is a lot at this site you may find of interest? too...
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
Harvey
Thanks very much, Harvey.
I've bumped into a lot of similar infomation over the years while
researching UFOs on the internet.
Relating to your links ....
this man Sheldan Nidle says we humans were invaded by physical and/or
multi dimensional entities in the past.
http://paoweb.com/updates.htm
See the links ....
Update for May 3, 2005
Update for Apr. 26, 2005
Update for Apr. 19, 2005
Update for Apr. 12, 2005
Update for Apr. 5, 2005
Update for Mar. 29, 2005
True information or not, it makes an excellent read.
These free audio files are much more interesting...
http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_wendelle_stevens.htm
I'll get around to checking those sites/etc out. Thanks.
It is interesting to note, what people think, who have been interested
in this field/area, a long, long, long time.
Yes, it is.
Two links that I respect are the one above and this one...
http://ufophysics.com/Q.htm
True information or not, I have no idea.
For a long time, I felt that nothing much was happening in this area
of information (not that I was clued up to what really was happening
in the world, etc, relying upon the general media, for any updates) but
there has been a release of information in the last 10? years.
And finally there has been confirmation from different sources, of
what has been kept secret from 'us' (the general population) for so long.
eg. The Disclosure Project, Phil Schneider (and other similar sources),
Billy Meier, etc.
A lot of information and disinformation and other situations,
including cults and everything else.
The main fact is, without a doubt, certain groups of people on Earth
want to maintain control over advanced technology.
And that is perfectly normal.
Also I don't blame the media. (TV & Newspapers, etc)
And I don't want to see the masses looking for revenge and going nuts
just because of a past 'cover up'.
I have been interested in this area for over 30 years. It is not just
about 'UFOs' - it is much more than that.
Oh yeah, the whole Internet and documentaries on TV and the Universe
and eveything is just the most amazing thing to study.
I think a classic book is the 1956 book 'The Case For the UFO' by
M K Jessup, then there's the engimatic 'The Annotated Edition of "The
Case for the UFO"'.
Our public library has a great collection of UFO books.
The two books you mention would be rare, and I haven't read them.
We are all in pursuit of the 'truth'
Well, to be honest, I'm not keen on that phrase.
I see it more as just a natural desire to study say ... the oceans or
biology or languages or everything.
- but in order to receive and
perceive the truth, you must be open and impartial -- because the
truth may very well be very startling and shocking
World War 2 and life forms in Africa are/can be "startling and
shocking".
It doesn't mean I'm going to stop watching the recent 'Color of War'
documentaries on TV.
--- because what
has been presented as the truth to us, today - is not.
I would say "what has been presented as the truth to us, in the past,
in history - is not".
Today we have the Internet.
And you and I are sharing a nice educated conversation.
And the reason why we are not given the truth, is that our establishments
of authority (academic, political, religious, governmental, etc etc) are
not truthful unto themselves.
Everyone has problems.
We can solve problems.
(these days, even without ahnilating everything)
Quote - "Open debate is good".
We have to recognise that all of these
are run and controlled by men (very few women are in positions of power
and authority), and are very much human.
It wouldn't surprise me if there were some or many women somewhere in
supreme positions of power, Secret or otherwise. etc.
They are subject to the frailities
of greed for power and control, they can put on a front and hide behind it,
thinking they are safe and secure in whatever they like to do.
And that is why we have distortions in all of those establishments, and
inconsistancies, because of the lack of integrity, sincerity, genuiness
and honesty.
..."because of the lack of integrity, sincerity, genuiness
and honesty."
Oh, yeah, I like those words, and those states of being.
Actually I've met quite a few people with those qualities. But they
are either shy and not found, or afraid, or no good at making money,
or stepped on by bad folks, or even paid off, or too busy working 10
hours a day, or etc, etc.
However, unless Echelon or something can pull some dirt up on him...
Arnold Schwarzenegger would be a good example of "integrity,
sincerity, genuiness and honesty."
People may very well reject the Talmud Jmmanuel text, and the information
>from Billy Meier - but if you wish to know the truth, I suggest that they
ought to be checked out thoroughly. Not just reviews about Billy Meier, but
check out the actual information given out by Billy Meier, himself.
See what the Plejaren message is. And you will see why I have gone on a bit
in the above personal message, I had written.
Actually, one of the main "News Flash" links from our website is to
possible Plejaren information.
But even with that situation I sometimes wonder if it is true or not.
They warn of hybrid pig warriors, but maybe they remote future viewed
a simple fun PC game called "Duke Nukem Forever".
And if that was the case, then they spun powers on Earth into a quiet
secret frenzy.
There are a lot of people guessing at what the truth is.
Some of what they say may be true, and some may not be.
It would be nice to have a source who can help us all decide what is
more likely to be true - that is why I think the Plejaren material is
so important. A healthy skepticism is good, but blind skepticism is not.
Harvey
Well, pleased to chat with you.
I mainly have a smile and a jest in
alt.alien.visitors and alt.alien.research
See you next time.
Have a nice day.
(there may be some spelling mistakes above. I'm a bit too tired to go
through and spell check it all right now)