Subject: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs. VESTED INTERESTS.
From: Pastor Dave
Date: 26/05/2005, 00:14
Newsgroups: soc.history.what.if,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.christnet,alt.agnosticism

On Wed, 25 May 2005 17:58:27 -0400, "Lajos Barnyi"
<lajos_baranyi@hotmail.com> spake thusly:


What Christian's oppose is that a fundamental theory
is being taught as a fact in Public Education.

Some Christians may do that, most of them do not.
Those who do oppose Darwinism disreagard the
Pope's opinion

Who cares what the Pope's opinion is?


and they misunderstand the current status quo.

Who cares what the status quo is?


Evolution is thought as a theory that has high degree
of plausibility.

It is taught as fact.


The scientific community does not use the words
"fact" and "theory" as synonyms.

No, they just claim that the Theory of Evolution is a
fact and that it is the fact of evolution.


Falsifiable means that there must be a prediction
that one can declare invalid by objective measurement
or observation.

And yet, there are no tests, nor observations that you
can make, that will satisfy them.  And there is no test
that you can run to prove it absolute false.  That's
because it lives in the fantasy world and every time
you come up with a reason not to believe it, they play
dodge ball.  For example, when the fossil record
doesn't demonstrate it, then all of the sudden, it's
the magic "mutations" that do it, even though no one
can demonstrate them.  If you show that it could not
happen that quickly, especially since we don't see that
happening today, then it is said that the magic wand of
"time" is needed.


Any attempt to invoke a Creator in any hypothesis
automatically renders the hypothesis or theory
unscientific,

No, it doesn't.  That is what you would like people to
believe.  But science does not include, nor exclude
the supernatural.  Science is a method, not a
conclusion.  If the only logical conclusion is design,
then there must be a designer.  One can look at a plane
and know it was designed, whether or not you can prove
a particular designer did it.  The fact that the
designer is human, is irrelevant.  The fact is, that it
is ridiculous to look at something that is obviously
designed and then claim it happened by accident,
all by itself.  That is unscientific.

-- Pastor Dave Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html http://tinyurl.com/ce97m