In article <5a1a91pvqrd27av0g4rp5491h9k36v3uj2@4ax.com>,
 Pastor Dave <news-group-mail@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:

On Wed, 25 May 2005 17:58:27 -0400, "Lajos Barnyi"
<lajos_baranyi@hotmail.com> spake thusly:

What Christian's oppose is that a fundamental theory
is being taught as a fact in Public Education.

Some Christians may do that, most of them do not.
Those who do oppose Darwinism disreagard the
Pope's opinion

Who cares what the Pope's opinion is?

A large portion of all Christians, and many non-Christians as well.

and they misunderstand the current status quo.

Who cares what the status quo is?

Everybody who has anything to lose or gain if it changes.

Evolution is thought as a theory that has high degree
of plausibility.

It is taught as fact.

Not by scientists. 

The scientific community does not use the words
"fact" and "theory" as synonyms.

No, they just claim that the Theory of Evolution is a
fact and that it is the fact of evolution.

Those who do are not part of the scientific community any more that 
those who claim that ID  or Creatinism are a facts  or that they are 
even scientific, are part of the scientific community.

Falsifiable means that there must be a prediction
that one can declare invalid by objective measurement
or observation.

Any attempt to invoke a Creator in any hypothesis
automatically renders the hypothesis or theory
unscientific,

No, it doesn't.  

To say that something is not scientific is not to pass on  whether it is 
true or false, but only to say that  scientific methods are not 
appropriate for investigating it.

That is what you would like people to
believe.  But science does not include, nor exclude
the supernatural.

Unless you can describe some way of proving, at least in principle, "the 
supernatural" false, it does.

Science is a method, not a
conclusion.  

And that method limits scientific investigation to such universal 
statemnts as can, at least in principle, be falsified.

If the only logical conclusion is design,
then there must be a designer.

Logic without physical evidence 'proves' nothing about reality.