"The Last Church" <Idithere@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:36:21 +0200, "Niels van der Linden"
<n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote:

<No way. Atheists have logic on their side. Show us evidence and it'll be
<looked into.

Where have we heard that before?  Willett says he represents all
atheists and he never reads what he replies to. He is far from
anything logical. But on the chance that you are not like Willett
the evidence you seek is inside you. Look into yourself and you will
find it.
 Christ says, " If you want to know the spirit that is God you Must
First know yourself. (in depth) In so doing you will come to the
evidence you seek.

< They favor all the virtues laid out in textbooks of
<standard methodology: testability, evidential support, precision,
<quantifiability, consistency, intersubjectivity, repeatability,
<universality, progressiveness, independence of cultural milieu, and so 
on.

More scientist believe God is real than those who don't. Science
confirm's the reality of God........[Not the God of Organized
Religion] But the true spirit of God.

You don't understand the scientific method. You can't poll truths. In fact, 
science only deals with a working hypothesis.

It seems you are talking about the god-concept:

"God is a metaphor for a mystery that transcends all human categories of 
thought.
Half of the people in the world are religious people who think *their* 
metaphors are facts, those are what we call theists.
The other half are people who know that the metaphors are not facts, those 
are the atheists.

The problem [with Christianity, Islam etc] is with the mysteries from 2000 
BC and 2000 AD. If you don't penetrate the myths with the science of today, 
you have a problem; a big one actually."
-Joseph Campbell

The mystery is very much part of our lives (even though a lot less so than 
before science). You musn't mistake the metaphor of god with a fact.

<Faith spreads despite a total lack of every single one of these virtues."

Faith spreads because faith is hope. Neither is locked into any
doctrine.

The bible is mostly myth and legends with very little if any true
history in it.

Then why do you keep referring to Christ? Or are you talking about the 
mythologically interpreted Christ?

But just because organized religions got it wrong does
not negate the fact that God is reality. Follow no man or book but
your own spirit. It has always known the way to the spirit you are
seeking evidence of.
  All of life comes down to just one choice. Choose that which builds
up the spirit or that which breaks down the spirit. You are a spirit
in the body of an animal. All animals have the same spirit. You have
the choice of living in the spirit or letting the animal run your
life. Know yourself in depth and you will see the spirit that is God.

  Seek the truth of all things with out fear of regard for doctrines
and you will become what you seek.

--   In the mind of Christ,
      Apricate.