JohnN wrote:

David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:

"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in message news:d86ps5$hof$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...

As foolish and stubborn as the god-fearing can
be, atheists are, at times, no better.  Both are resolute in their
beliefs, despite their ignorance.

No way. Atheists have logic on their side. Show us evidence and it'll be
looked into.

"Looked into"...what a twit.  Just what would that accomplish?

I'm an agnostic, btw. As for logic, it isn't relevant when you don't
have an argument. Correct me if I am wrong but has the "scientific
theory" known as "atheism" proven why we are here?  I didn't think so.
That is because it is a belief system based on ignorance -- it offers
nothing by way of explanation.

O, man.. where to start..

Take evolution for instance, it describes how life evolved. It doesn't say
why. But if you think about it, it actually negates the question, since it
says it just happens and is *not* steered.

Evolution (of man) is a theory... a pretty flaky one, at that.

Evolution is a fact.  There are a few theories of evolution that
explain the fact of evolution.

There are also
some inexplicable short-term pattern changes that beg the justification
of external influence, or "steering" as you say.

Please show us this evidence for steering and a steerer.

Same goes for creation of planets, stars, solar systems, galaxies.. This
scientific knowledge has brought me to my position: atheist freethinker.
When new knowledge arrives, I'm totally open to changing my position, since
that's the way I gained it in the first place.

This merely implies that you have a belief system....  Welcome to "faith".

How is an absence of belief faith?  What is faith?

 Faith is believing in stuff you know ain't so. -  Mark Twain said something like that: http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~widenius/clemens.html

This idea that atheists have faith is truly absurd. They obviously think it's an insult to us and yet they regard it as a virtue! That's like lesbians taunting straight men by saying "yeah but you want to have sex with women and that ain't natural, so there!"