Peter wrote:

tomcat wrote:

There has definitely been a release of information - say, since the 90s?
in many different 'unexplained' areas.
Underwater finds, say of ancient advanced civilisations,
of 'UFO' evidence - and others.
In reading about Nazi Flying Saucers, these are of a particular type -
so they can be identified in photographs. What information there is
available about them, suggests they are in 'isolation' and their
influence/etc is somewhat static.
Perhaps their activity has declined by now, due to their craft being
old and non-functioning now?

 > There is a lot of evidence that the Nazi's had flying saucers.  They
 > were believed to have 'death ray' weapons onboard.  There is
 > speculation that they were unmanned robotic electromagnetic aircraft.
 > That 'Foo Fighters', without obvious means of propulsion, buzzed our
 > planes in WWII is fact.

In the UFO arena we have to really keep our wits about us. We are
battling wishful thinking, crazy notions and strange strange data of
high reliability. It is highly unlikely the Nazis had any such vehicles.
The Foo fighters were as much beyond them as they were beyond the allies.

There was a lot of technical and scientific innovation during World War
2, but none of it even hints at the physics of reported objects then and
now. Physics of the 20th century has nothing to say of these things,
that is why they are so anomalous.

The truth is bound to be a lot stranger.

The Nazi's were into antigravity design prior to WWII.  That highly
secret saucer-like vehicles were found after the war is now known.  The
pictures I have seen of them, however, did not live up to the foo
fighter stories.  They appeared crude, definitely experimental.

One of the more interesting threads in our world's history is that of
Marconi:

After the Pope ex-communicated him -- rumor has it that he took out a
'hit' on Marconi as well -- because Marconi was selling the Germans
advanced technology (ray guns) in the 1935 - 1936 time frame, Marconi
is 'suspected' of faking his death July 20, 1937 and setting up a
laboratory in a volcanic tube somewhere near southwest Brazil.

While Marconi's faking of his death is a 'rumor', that his personal
steamship the "Electra" set sail immediately after his 'death' and was
never heard of again is documented fact.  Rumors then surfaced in the
subsequent years that he had developed 'flying saucers'.  It is also
rumored that he purchased, using his immense fortune, electronic
devices and parts from the French Government during this period.

It has since come to light that the French had an experimental flying
saucer, photographed by USAF intelligence, in 1952.  Marconi may have
had his arm twisted by the French Government, or may have run out of
money and made a deal, and told the French how to build an antigravity
vehicle.  But this is, admittedly, conjecture.

It is fact, however, that the United States Congress passed a funding
bill for Project Winterhaven in 1953 to determine the feasibility of
antigravity vehicles.  The published reports at that time were
favorable except that the antigravity effect was weak and such vehicles
could not carry bomb loads.

In 1956 (in the U.S.) and in 1957 (in the U.K.) no more was written or
said about antigravity.  The last published reports were very
optimistic, however.  A report from the U.K. spoke of a new material
that would be more than adequate to increase the antigravity lift
constant, K.


So, draw your own conclusions.  But the 50's were a fascinating time of
technology far beyond what most, at that time, knew.  Much of this
advanced technology is, today, out in the open.  No wonder the classic
sci-fi movie "Forbidden Planet" showed U.S. Airmen flying a 'flying
saucer' into deep space.  It is enough to make you . . . ponder.


tomcat