Thanks for the heads up.  Art Deco, Flonkenstein, Vanilla Gorilla, and
a dozen others are clearly ops.


Yankee Doodle Refugee wrote:

WELL???, MANY OF US NEED TO KNOW.


CIA Psy-Ops on the Internet

CIA Opposed Freedom, and Freedom of Discussion

by Michael Kelly

A description of the evolution of alt.politics.org.cia and the changing
tactics used by the US government to suppress discussion of the real
issues.

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About a year ago, almost all the posters on this group were "retired"
spooks [or 20-somethings paid minimum wage to work at the lowest level
of CIA or NSA and who show their lack of experience in many many ways].
What they would do is sit like spiders in their webs waiting for
innocents to come along and ask a question, such as "what are some good
books to read" on such and such an intelligence-related topic. Of
course, the newbie was then steered to some CIA-approved or CIA-written
propaganda. A favorite being The Night Watch, by David Atlee Phillips,
who was propaganda meister for the Western Hemisphere Division of CIA.
If the poster criticized CIA, that poster was flamed. If the flaming
didn't have any effect, then all the spooks would killfile the poster
in lockstep.
This strategy only works well when the "retired" spooks make up a vast
majority of the posters here. Now that more "real people" have gotten
involved in this group, it doesn't work so well because a critic is
likely to be able to interact with others who want to discuss the
issues.

The last thing The Company wants is a genuine discussion of the issues
here. What they want is a propaganda outlet. That's why anyone who
raises the real issues of CIA and Clandestine Services(as the "old
boys" like to call the covert ops department) will be set upon by
provocateurs.

See, if the "retired" spooks flame in too nasty a fashion and too
constantly, it makes them look bad. The technique used is to bring
people in from outside with no other purpose than to start flame wars
with, and otherwise harass the critic. An analogy would be the hockey
player who can't skate but is on the team to take out the talented
players on the opposing team by starting brawls.

A trademark of these types is that they never contribute anything of
substance. Their refrain is "so and so is a... blah blah." By this
technique the attempt is made to portray the critic as someone who
argues with everyone. By attacking from many sides they attempt to
portray the target as the common denominator in all the flame wars. Of
course the hope is that the provocations will substitute the flame wars
themselves as the issue, instead of the discussion of illegal and
immoral practices of The Company.

It's just a diversionary tactic. Keep focused on what The Company
avoids discussing. Those are the real topics of importance here. All
that's needed for them to have total control of your lives is for you
to do nothing. They never stop seeking more power. Henry Kissinger
called power "the ultimate aphrodisiac" and he should know since he
stopped at nothing to increase his share of it. When Congress asked him
if it was really a nice thing to encourage the Kurds to rise up, then
abandon them when it was convenient, his response was roughly "one
should not confuse covert operations with missionary work." What a guy!
Yeah, give him another peace prize!

Provocation is an old technique The Company has used for decades. They
have experience subverting labor unions, student organizations, and
governments, remember? So it's old hat for them to divide and conquer.

The purpose is to divert you all from discussing the substantive
issues. As soon as the standard Company "dirty tricks" are brought up,
then all kinds of nitwits come out of the woodwork to start flame wars
and commence e-mail and other harassments of the critic in order to
obfuscate the issues.

The following are issues The Company would rather not confirm or deny:
CIA training of assassins and Latin American death squads. Read
anything you can on the School of the Americas (known fondly as The
School of Assassins.) You will find alumni such as the illustrious
Manuel Noriega.

CIA rigging of elections, especially now in conjunction with the
"National Endowment for Democracy" or NED.

The "standard practices" of CIA, including propaganda via "friendly"
reporters in the American press, and the publishing of books via CIA
proprietary companies that pass themselves off as private commercial
enterprises. (Beware especially of former KGB officials who author
these pieces of trash as "vigorish" for being allowed to live in the
US.)
The subversion of labor, educational, cultural, student, political, and
military organizations at home and abroad.

The illegal opening and interception of U.S. citizen's mail and
electronic correspondence. In case you're tempted to tell me they are
prohibited from doing this domestically, they get around these
proscriptions by multi-lateral agreements with the intelligence
agencies of other countries. It amounts to "we'll spy on your people
and give you the take if you return the favor." So, Britain's GCHQ may
intercept your phone call instead of NSA, and everything will be
"legal," but your privacy is still violated nonetheless.

CIA dealing in drugs, weapons, money-laundering, and currency
speculation on the black markets. This is a handy means of raising
operating expenses for projects the Congress is not willing to fund, a
la Iran/Contra, or multiplying the funds Congress appropriates. One
example of this technique is described in the book Portrait of A Cold
Warrior by Joseph B. Smith. He worked for the Company rigging elections
in the Philippines. He was instrumental in bringing Ferdinand Marcos to
power. He dealt the operating funds sent to him by CIA on the black
market until they were multiplied by a factor of 10, then used the take
to finance CIA-backed candidates. Imelda needs a new pair of shoes!

The funding of "media magnates" and "stock market wizards."
Intelligence agencies provide insider info (their game is espionage,
remember?) to their puppets who parlay it into windfalls on the stock
market. A percentage of the take is used to promote propaganda, back
arms deals, pay bribes, etc.. An example of this is the backing of
Robert Maxwell by Mossad. In the US, Howard Hughes was deeply involved
with The Company. It's also the reason Robert Vesco will never be
extradited to the United States.
That should do for starters. Although it may be fun to discuss the high
resolution photography of spy satellites, and all the nifty toys that
government research has produced, the spy business is an old one.
Secret power doesn't require technology so much as a willingness to
betray your fellow citizens in order to curry favor with those in
control. The techniques I discuss above are some of the means they use
to do this. I think discussing these issues is more central to
preserving what freedom we have left than marveling at the latest
"sneaky" the boys in the lab have contrived.

Mike



Any sect will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political
power and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all
education and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all
heretics



Art Deco wrote:

<love_will_rule_very_soon@yahoo.com> wrote:

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corporations working in consort with the secret societies like the
Freemasons and the governmental beast to prevent the desemination of
information.

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