Subject: Re: The Grand Cross on the winter solstice
From: kiwi@ing.notin.aus (Your Name Here=Harvey)
Date: 19/12/2005, 08:17
Newsgroups: alt.bible.prophecy,alt.news-media,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,talk.religion.newage

In article <43a4f02c$0$13505$44c9b20d@news3.asahi-net.or.jp>, 
eileenl@utopia-net.org says...

The sign, which a big change comes onto the earth, appears around the earth 
on the winter solstice, December 22 (Thu.), 2005 because the Saturn on the 
Cancer, the Neptune on the Capricorn, the Mars on the Aries, and the Jupiter 
on the Libra draw the Grand Cross (a big cross) centering the earth.

The Grand Cross on the winter solstice must be as the sign that a new savior 
will be born on the earth in 2006 so that all the Christians in the world 
will be collected into one near future.

Many Christians in the world will experience many miracle phenomena related 
to St. Mary, Jesus' holy mother, and our Savior, Jesus Christ, for "The 
Kingdom of God" and "The New Space Scientific Era" from this winter 
solstice.

The New Testament
Paul's Second Letter to the Thessalonians
13-17 of Chapter 2
You Are Chosen for Salvation
We must thank God at all times for you, brothers, you whom the Lord loves. 
For God chose you as the first to be saved by the Spirit's power to make you 
his holy people and by your faith in the truth.
God called you to this through the Good News we preached to you; he called 
you to possess your share of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
So then, our brothers, stand firm and hold on to those truths which we 
taught you, both in our preaching and in our letter.
May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and in 
his grace gave us unfailing courage and a firm hope, encourage you and 
strengthen you to always do and say what is good.
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"John's Revelations" of the New Testament in The Bible has been
coming true!!!  Let's pray to our Creators & Jesus Christ,
and do good things for the Eternal Life & the Kingdom of God!
Let's become an Ecologist to protect the nature in the earth!

Happy are those who wash their robes clean and so have the right
to eat the fruit from the tree of life and to go through the gates
into the city.  But outside the city are the perverts and those
who practise magic, the immoral and the murderers, those who worship
idols and those who are liars both in words and deeds.
("Revelation" of the New Testament 22:14~15)

Eileen Lakes, Utopia Network
E-Mail:  eileenl@utopia-net.org
Utopia Network:  http://www.utopia-net.org/English/index1.html
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I don't think there is any truth to this post/message, just as there is
no truth to what Christians say these days.
What truth there is - they are not open to it.

And no, no one is coming to save the Christians - they suffer from
their own ignorance, and false teachings.

This is from the text that should have been used, instead of the mish-mash
that we have... from the Talmud Jmmanuel text: (Jmmanuel=Jesus)


131              Chapter 21
                Two Blind Persons
 I.  When they set out on their way to Jericho, many people followed him. 
 2.  And behold, two blind persons sat by the wayside; and when they heard 
Jmmanuel 
     going by, they cried out, saying, "Oh lord, son of a celestial son, have 
mercy on us!"
 3.  The people threatened them to be quiet, but they screamed even louder, 
saying, 
    "Oh, lord, son of a celestial son, have mercy on us!"
 4.  And Jmmanuel stood still and called out to them, asking, "What do you 
want me to do for you?"
 5.  They said to him, "Lord, open our eyes so we can glimpse the splendor of 
the world."
 6.  And he had pity on them and asked, "Whose power, do you suppose, is it 
that can make you see?"
 7.  They replied, "The power of Creation, which is in the laws."
 8.  Jmmanuel was astonished and said, "Truly, so far I have never found such 
faith and knowledge 
     among these people. Be it done to you as you expect."
 9.  And he touched their eyes and immediately they could see; and they 
followed him.
10.  As they went on their way, Jmmanuel taught the people with sincerity, and 
he spoke,
II. "Truly, truly, I say to you, if you are knowledgeable and comprehending 
and embrace wisdom, 
     and if you practice love truthfully and do not doubt, not only will you 
do such things with 
     blind eyes, but when you say to the fig tree: 'Dry up' it will dry up. Or 
when you say to a   
     mountain: 'Lift yourself up and throw yourself into the sea,' it will 
come to pass.
12. "Be knowledgeable in truth and wisdom, so that your spirit and your 
consciousness 
     will become powerful.
13. "And when you are knowledgeable and live in the truth of wisdom, your 
spirit and your 
     consciousness will be filled with infinite power.
14. "Then everything you command or ask for in prayer, you will receive if you 
trust in it.
15. "Do not suppose, however, that prayer is necessary, because you will also 
receive 
    without prayer if your spirit and your consciousness are trained through 
wisdom.
16. "Do not delude yourself by heeding the falsified teachings that a person 
has a predetermined 
     will, because this belief is wrong.
17. "Know this: Whatever a person may wish to accomplish, they must always 
first create the 
     will to do so, because this is the law of nature.
18. "Thus a person determines the course of their life, known as fate.
19. "But it is a fact that one must acquire knowledge and learn the truth in 
order to engender 
     a will that is imbued with the laws.
20. "Consider yourselves as people who live in order to learn and perfect the 
spirit,
21. "because you were born with the task of becoming perfect in spirit. 
22. "Pay no attention in the future when the erroneous teaching will be spread 
that 
     humans must once again perfect themselves in spirit because they have 
fallen away from Creation.
23. "Beware of this false teaching, because it is wrong down to the final dot 
on the 'i.'
24. "Truly, truly, I say to you, humans were never perfect in spirit and thus 
     they have never fallen away from Creation.
25. "The spirit of each person is created specifically for the task of 
perfecting itself 
     and gaining wisdom.
26. "This is so as to become one with Creation as destined by the laws, 
whereby Creation grows 
     and expands within, and thus perfects itself. 
27. "And as the spirit within a person is a unity, so is Creation a unity 
within itself, 
     and no other powers exist besides it.
28. "Within itself, Creation is pure spirit and therefore infinite power, 
because it is 
     one within itself, and nothing exists outside of it.
29. "Therefore, beware of the false and adulterated future teachings that will 
insult me 
     when they call me the Son of Creation and the Son of God.
30. "From these false teachings, lies will be spun, and because of them the 
world will suffer 
     much deprivation and misery.
31. "Pay no attention to the erroneous future teachings which will endeavor to 
combine the spirit 
     and Creation and me into one, creating from them a threefold entity, 
which in turn 
     should be a unity again.
32. "Beware of these false and adulterated teachings of the future, because a 
trinity is impossible 
     according to the logical laws of Creation.
33. "Truly, I say to you, the princes suppress their people, and the mighty 
use violence against them; 
     similarly, the forthcoming religious sects will use violence, when they 
adulterate my teachings 
     and disseminate them.
34. "So beware of them and do not permit yourselves to be forced into carrying 
the yoke of these 
     false teachings.
35. "But this does not have to happen to you; instead, you should be great and 
learn and teach the truth.
36. "As I have come to teach truth and knowledge among the people, so you 
should keep on reaching, 
     in order that the truth may indeed prevail.



Harvey