In article <nCPHf.40017$494.11849@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, 
manic_mandy@hotmail.com says...

In news:dso80f$5ih$1@lust.ihug.co.nz,
Your Name Here=Harvey <kiwi@ing.notin.aus> typed:

In that television program - it mentioned about the Odometer that the
Romans used to put milestones down on their roads - that this device
could not be reconstructed into a working model. da Vinci tried to
solve
how did it work? But couldn't. Someone who did solve the riddle found
out that the cogs used, had sharp points, instead of square teeth to
the gearing.

Intersting, probably more accurate with sharp points.

I'm not an engineer or mechanically minded to know what is the
difference between square and sharp teeth? With cogs...

You can download any kind of television programme you like, via file
sharing programs such as eMule or Xolox, if you have a cheap
broadband connection, unlimited download option (I have one only at
256K speed - it usually takes days of leaving your computer online,
to download the one programme, so it's best to download several
together. I have been downloading various UFO programmes and ones
about Free Energy are interesting too.) Having the fastest broadband
speed doesn't help because most downloads occur at very slow
broadband speeds.

Yes I should probaly do that. I have 2 mbs unlimited cable broadband now. I
used to download the occassional film when I had 600k I should download more
stuff really make it worth the money I spend on it :)

With those filesharing programs, you're dependent on how fast is the
connection with the computer you're downloading from, and I would guess most
are from slow access points, so that's why it takes days to download the
one programme.
I've managed to locate 4 programs about Nikola Tesla - who is a very 
interesting person to know more about. The unsung genius, more brilliant
than Einstein or Edison, etc. Whom we depend everyday of our lives on.

You have to be realistic. That the US Government has spent millions on
a secure radar network, which says it can track foreign objects in
it's airspace - and in todays electronic world, that must mean it can
track
it's domestic air traffic even more easily.
What is little known about 9-11 is that there were simulation
exercises
going on with the military at that time, which suggest even more the
whole 9-11 was rigged by the US government. And when someone rung up
the authorities about this 9-11 event, they asked "Real World or
simulation?" It is mentioned in detail in that 9-11 news that you
never saw.
A reasonable person cannot believe that the US President got the
immediate news via the television news feed. Why do they have a
military? And their security forces for? You can't say they don't
have a fast and efficient communications system, that keeps track of
everything.

Well when the first plane hit people tended to think it was simply an
accident, I mean terrorism was being mentioned but generally it was
uncertain, of course when the second plane hit, there could be no doubt it
was a terrorist attack. But I don't suppose it was deemed necessary to tell
the president right away although I dare say he would have been vaguely
aware that something had happened. Of course considering how long it took
the Bush administration to respond to Hurricane Katrina and the near total
destruction of New Orleans back last year the fact it took a few hours to
respond to 9/11 wasn't particularly unusual. Actually the World news media
has better resources and more personnel available on the ground than the
military, and to some extent is part of military intelligence.

John Lear said on one of those Art Bell radio programs, that even he,
an experienced airline pilot couldn't have hit so precisely the twin
towers - and for someone to do it, who never had previous experience on
a jetliner, would be unheard of, unless they have clocked up enough hours
on one of the official training simulators for that particular jet.

And on hindsight, when you really look at it, the precision of both
planes is truly uncanny. You would have expected part of the plane
and debris to have split apart and fallen down the building, or some
such catastrophic crash effect.
And the Pentagon strike is even more harder to believe, and harder too
for the pilot to have scored a direct accurate strike, as it did.
For the 3 strikes to be so accurate, looks beyond the capabilities
and accuracy of Bin Laden's terrorists.

why didn't he excuse himself, to deal with this catastrophe of the
highest order, but no, he continued on with reading from a
children's book, as
if nothing momentous had just happened.

True, but shock is like that, I don't think anyone can take in and
assimilate shocking events like 9/11 in the first second of being
told or seeing it happen. I don't think George Bush's immediate
reaction was in the slightest bit unusual under the circumstances.
You can look at something like that and be so over awed by it you
think it's all fantasy and you might even laugh, but when the shock
actually hits it makes you cry.

What was going through President Bush's mind, as he was reading a
children's story to children?
Maybe he wasn't playing dumb, and he was really dumb or struck dumb?
After his aide gave him some unexpected news?
He appears to be more of a puppet, than a player in the events.

Well a President is a head of state, someone who signs bits of paper, and
makes the occassional speech in order to create the illussion that democracy
is a reality. It's the government itself that does all the work and of
course that never really changes.

I think most of the conspiracy theories are being spread by traitors
and Islamic-Fascist apologists, it's called revisionism and of
course people try to do it in regard to the Holocaust as well. Such
people are traitors. --
Amanda

Conspiracy theories will only take hold, if there is some substance
and reason to them. If they add up to something sensible.
If Kuwait had no oil - the first gulf war would not have happened...
Iraq would not have been invaded, if they had no oil.
Just look at Afghanistan - which has nothing for the US to profit
from,
and how long did it take before they came to the aid of that country.
If there is no truth to the conspiracy theories, there would be no
fuel
for them to burn with.

Well but OTOH people really do strange things. I mean I was reading an
article the other day about the theory the Hitler was actually a British
agent set in place by the Illuminatie to destroy most of Europe and thin the
population down a bit. Of course if one looks at the events. Hitler did some
very strange things and of course it is mind blowing that the Nazis actually
thought they could win, when the whole thing was an absolute suicide
mission. But it's easy to reinterpret events with the advantage of
hindsight. Fanaticism does make people do crazy things almost as an act of
faith and I think the reality is he was just a fanatic.

You may not place much creditability upon the source of the Plejarens,
the ETs who have contact with Billy Meier.
They said that Hitler was 'used' and his inner circle controlled, ie.
he was a puppet. There isn't any kind of evidence to back this up, unlike
the hoaxing of moon landings.

They also mention about the hoaxing of Apollo 11.
There is certainly a lot which weighs in favour of Nasa hoaxing Apollo 11.
I guess we'll have to wait until Man goes to the moon again?
We may be in for a very long wait on this one?
I guess no one thinks of sending a rover to the moon, to see if Nasa did
hoax the moon landings?

Harvey

-- 
Amanda