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In article <LhuMf.54810$K42.13046@newsfe7-win.ntli.net>,
manic_mandy@hotmail.com says...

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The idea of UFOs being alien spececraft does not stand up to any
kind of logical scrutiny.

What logical scrutiny? It's only logical in the context of the
absence of evidence to call such scrutiny "logical". e.g. believing
in Santa Clause can be quite logical for a child until he/she
realises that a big fat old man would have some physical difficulty
coming down the average chimney and many modern homes no longer have
chimneys. So the factual evidence then dispels the myth. It's never
logical to come to a conclusion based on limited evidence. It is
more logical to keep an open mind in regard to the possibility that
some UFOs are of ET origin, particularly since what we actually know
about the universe we live in is infinitesimal and a Trillion stars
bear witness to that fact, we don't even know about all the bodies
in our own Solar system. --
Amanda

You can't say that UFOs come from one source.
Because the evidence/information says otherwise.

ie.
UFOs can be divided into 3 main sources ...

1. Extraterrestrial - ie. visitors from outer space or other
   dimensions.
   ie. Physical and non-physical dimensions

2. Terrestrial
   eg. from US Government secret projects or 'black budget'
       sources.
       from Nazi Flying Saucer technology (Note: this is of
       a specific UFO type).
       Any other possible earth built origin?

3. Other - This would be the category of mistaken identity
   of normal aircraft seen at unusual angles to be mistaken
   for a 'UFO' or that of astronomical sightings mistaken
   for a UFO, however if the object shows the abnormal
   characteristics of a UFO (very high speed and erratic
   maneuvers) then it would be of 1. or 2. above.

Exterrrestrial UFOs tend to fall into specific UFO types,
such as the beamship and wedding cake designs photographed by
Billy Meier - and others...

I agree but there is also

4. Fake UFOs. People do fake up UFO images and claim to be in contact with
Aliens, there are charlatans about. Persoanally I would place Billy Meier in
that catogory.
-- 
Amanda

If you read only the negative press/media about Meier, then you will
easily get the impression that he is some kind of nut contactee, alongside
the others, that have appeared over the years.
But however, if you read through the serious investigations into him,
I think you'll find he is somewhat valid.
Take for instance the video lecture by Wendelle Stevens, who was one of
the earliest investigators into Billy Meier. He gives a thorough recount
of his investigation at that time - and he is a credible investigator,
unlike others who have never met Billy Meier, nor been to the sites where
the original photographs were taken.
If you want the truth, you have to be able to take on board, what that
implies. Sadly - normal people have no idea what the truth is, and cannot
easily grasp it - because we are so far from it, in popular ideas and
acceptance. Our religions certainly don't tell us the truth - because
they disagree with each other, and with our sciences.

Fake UFO reports and such like do not stand up to intense scrutiny,
and likewise such photographs.

Kinda like original and faked crop circles.
Detailed investigation reveals which is which...

Harvey