Furiously scratching in the sand, you@somehost.somedomain.aus (Your
Name Here=Harvey) wrote:

For evidence of UFOs, look at photographs taken in times in which
there was no home computer running Photoshop, in which original negatives
were examined, and was found not to be hoaxed.

Can you give us an example?

And if no negatives were available, whether those photographs do stand
up examination by other means - ie. using only original prints.

Can you give us an example?  

It one thing to make such sweeping claims like this, and another to
cite specific examples.

For the story about whether the Apollo Moon Landings were authentic or
not, simply look at "What Happened on the Moon" which presents a lot of
details which show that many things are in question as to the authenticity
of the Apollo Moon program.
It does review basic details about photography - and why the official
photographs are not authentic...

Seen the claims, and they were made by people with little or no
understanding of photography, film, or lenses.  Pass any of that
"proof" by any professional photographer, and all you'll get is hoots
of laughter.

example-  the photos where space is in the background and no stars are
visible is often cited as one proof of fraud.  But the "detailed
analysis" shows little understanding of the film speeds used, the
combined effects of the wide angle lens, high shutter speeds, and
fairly small aperature used to make those photos.  In that
combination, only very bright objects will register clearly on a
high-speed film-  the range is very narrow.  Dimmer objects, such as
stars, will make very little impression.  They ARE there on the
negatives, but you would have to use longer exposures when printing to
bring them out, which would completely overexpose the main subjects.

All through your education, say in mathematics, you are taught 
problem solving, and to use reason and logic towards finding solutions.
Well, use that reason and logic in reviewing the above comments I've
written. Do some basic research, look into it.

Obviously, your concept of "reason and logic" needs a lot of work, as
do your research skills.  Example- you've obviously never personally
experimented with a wide angle lens, and the effect that it has on
perspective and distortion.  If you had, you would know that a 26-28mm
lens (35mm film format) will cause easily discernable distortions such
as shadows that are not parallel.

Many of the cameras used in the Apollo program used wide angle lens,
as longer lens need to be manually focused, which was impossible to do
in the suits the moonwalkers were wearing.  Auto-focus systems were
not available in the early 70s.

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The above are just two examples of how poor your research is.  You've
bought into the very questionable arguments put forth by *someone
else*, and then committed the cardinal sin of failing to verify their
claims for youself with experimentation.  You actually did no research
yourself, and exercised no "logic and reason".  You prefered to let
someone else tell you what you should believe.  That is not using
intelligence-  it is gullibility.

That, my friend, is NOT how they taught you in school.  Remember those
physics and chem classes?  The books told you what would happen when
you combined vineger and baking soda, and had you stopped there, you'd
be simply parroting back what an "expert" told you.  That's why the
teacher had you do those experiments, so you could learn how to verify
the claims of others.  

Well, you obviously did not completely absorb those lessons.

Once you've seen "What Happened on the Moon" and then watch any of the
official NASA footage and photographs, you can then say - Oh, that is
a studio setup there, see the multiple shadows, the fill in lighting, or
the sun is much too large than it should be, etc etc - and see if there
is anything that looks 'authentic'? after discounting that which appear
to be faked.

If you are predisposed to "see" something, you will surely see it.
Try the "open mind" approach.

I don't say that every UFO photograph is genuine - as some are
certainly faked. But we should now be able to identify certain types
of craft as belonging to certain UFO groups, ie. German type, Meier-Plejaren
type, etc etc. At least that would be a beginning...

Feel free to do so!  No one else has been able to.

We can't trust what the US Government says all the time. 9-11 is a prime
example of why we shouldn't. Same for the story about the Oklahoma City
bombing - in which the truth about that, has not come out in the mainstream
media yet...
We should use the same method to check out whether anything is true or not?
And apply that to everything, so that we can be sure of what we know,
and to accept nothing less than the truth.

I love all these calls for the government to "finally tell the
truth"...   You won't accept any version except the one YOU believe to
be true.

I can see by your last statement that you are easily gulled, easily
led, and you lack the basic motivation required to do even minor prime
research.  You are far more apt to parrot the opinions of others as
you are  incapable of formulating your own.  You are also willing to
believe in that vast conspiracy that, in your mind, constitutes our
government and that "it" is the root cause of most catastrophes,
covers up countless hoaxes, and is obviously in league with the alien
presence.

Paranoia must be your best freind!

EW



Reality is nothing more than a mathematical abstraction...
or a really good steak.