Subject: Re: Do we all agree that 9/11 was an inside job//Debunkers ARE implicated
From: Cardinal Chunder
Date: 19/06/2006, 10:35
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,alt.fan.art-bell

Amanda Angelika wrote:
In news:170620061833595423%erfc@netcabal.com,
Art Deco <erfc@netcabal.com> typed:
Amanda Angelika <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

The only thing I can think of that might have been capable of
disintegrating solid high tensile fire resistant steel that the WTCs
were constructed of would have been anti-matter devices. IMO it's
the only explanation that makes any sense.
Just give up thinking, it isn't working out for you.

I used to think the conspiracy theories were simply Islamic propaganda and
basically treacherous anti-American/Us government lies and simply concocted
to spread doubt, disinformation and division.

Why would you think that? It's actually far simpler - conspiracists possess that subtle blend of incredulity, paranoia and stupidity which makes them disbelieve *everything*.

The finest, ripest, hand-picked conspiracy kooks concoct the most ludicrous chain of events, tossing in impossible contrivances and non-existent tech to skirt around the more obvious and well supported explanation.

Even then, getting the kook to actually explain consistently what their theory is is like nailing jelly to a wall. It would be amusing to unify all the alternative suggestions together to show how stupid they are.

Whee this could be fun.

The Israelis in cahoots with the US and the ILLUMINATI dress up agents as hijackers and force three planes to land at military bases. Then they send 1 missile and 2 military jets painted in civilian livery towards their targets. The passengers are later sent off to the MOONBASE for experimentation and vivisection. One other hijacked plane bravely fights the Israeli agents dressed as terrorists and die as PATRIOTS. The two replacement jets (flown by computer) crash into the WTC towers, firing missiles at point blank range. Meanwhile a group of NINJAS have surreptitiously infiltrated the towers and hiding in the shadows have used Shinzuko hand drill technique have placed nano-thermite charges on all supporting columns on all 110 floors. Additionally the FREEMASONS have placed an anti-matter device in the basement. At the correct time, all of these charges detonate in a manner entirely consistent with a plane crash, structural damage and massive fires. The secret tech annihilates, leaving no trace it ever existed.

Meanwhile, the missile equipped with HOLOGRAPHIC MIND PROJECTION apparatus hits the pentagon. The mind control ensure that hundreds of witnesses see a passenger jet when in fact it was the missile. Unbeknownst to the conspirators, a security camera set to detect intruders captures blurry images of something large moving a speed. Its the missile!!! The government officials who blundered by releasing it were later shot.

Back at the WTC... in the chaos and confusion, the ninjas and freemasons move onto WTC7 which harbours ALIEN TECHNOLOGY and prime that for demolition. To ensure a "cover story" they ensure that the WTC collapses pelted the WTC7 with burning debris and use fake smoke to make it look like is on fire. Silverstein reveals the entire conspiracy when talking to the fire chief. He was later shot.

Across the river, the heretofore silent Israeli observers, terrorists, ninjas and freemasons all have a rooftop party. The BILDERBERG GROUP send over a couple of kegs. George Bush rings to congratulate them on causing trillions of dollars of economic damage to the US since now they have the excuse they needed to invade a shithole called Afghanistan.

The clues for the above chain of events were discerned from imbibing alcohol, a gross misunderstanding of basic physics, a lack of common sense, incredulity and staring at high compressed jpegs for too long.

Problem is though there are dozens of videos of the events of 911 showing
exactly what happened which leave many unanswered questions. Even structural
engineers are unable to satisfactorily explain why all those towers fell as
they did. After all they were not made of plastic wood and cardboard like
some Hollywood set but a very strong high tensile steel framework.

I suspect you made up these structural engineers. But if you didn't, you should ask them how to make a skyscraper not reduce to a pile of rubble if one floor fails sending the 20+ floors above it into freefall and smacking into the remainder.

There are no other examples apart from in controlled explosions for tall
building totally collapsing as a result of fire and yet on 9/11 there were
three buildings that collapsed in that way and one of them wasn't even hit
by an aeroplane.

So how many of these skyscrapers you're making comparisons with were hit by fuel laden jet liners or pelted with burning debris and left to burn out of control?

It's also notable that both the main towers collapsed from the top down and
yet WTC 2 which was hit second and fell first was hit about half way up. If
fire had caused the collapse of the buildings surely one would expect both
towers to have keeled over at the point of impact and not evenly from the
top down as if in a controlled explosion.

Here is a big clue for you. There's this thing called gravity see. It pulls thing down, not sideways. Sheering or twisting might cause some sideways movement, but down is the big clue here. Perhaps you think buildings behave like trees?

Incidentally It's also interesting to note that the Empire State building
was hit by a B25 bomber on July 28th 1945
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92525&page=1 and although it suffered some
damage is still structurally sound to this day.

So you're comparing an empty B25 bomber, flying at 1/3rd the speed and 1/3rd the weight with a a fuel laden 767? Even though it had an order of magnitude less potential energy, it still managed to do significant damage and killed 11 in the building.

Your point?

Did you even watch the footage of the jets hitting before making such a dumb comparison?

Having seen the events of 9/11 live on TV in the UK IMO the official
explanation is sheer nonsense, a total impossibility. It simply doesn't add
up at all. those towers come down like a pack of cards as if they were made
of match sticks and no one commentating on the event expected it, it was
shocking and surreal, still doesn't make sense and has never really been
satisfactorily explained.

You incredulity is noted. For your information, buildings are not designed to withstand the huge forces generated when a building comes down on itself. Progressive collapse or "pancaking" is a well understood risk in high rise buildings. Some designs might mitigate a collapse by providing secondary load paths, but nothing would have withstood 20 stories coming down on the rest.

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