Subject: Re: Do we all agree that 9/11 was an inside job//Debunkers ARE implicated
From: Bookman
Date: 19/06/2006, 11:55
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,alt.fan.art-bell

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:35:09 +0100, Cardinal Chunder
<cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote:

Amanda Angelika wrote:
In news:170620061833595423%erfc@netcabal.com,
Art Deco <erfc@netcabal.com> typed:
Amanda Angelika <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

The only thing I can think of that might have been capable of
disintegrating solid high tensile fire resistant steel that the WTCs
were constructed of would have been anti-matter devices. IMO it's
the only explanation that makes any sense.
Just give up thinking, it isn't working out for you.

I used to think the conspiracy theories were simply Islamic propaganda and
basically treacherous anti-American/Us government lies and simply concocted
to spread doubt, disinformation and division.

Why would you think that? It's actually far simpler - conspiracists 
possess that subtle blend of incredulity, paranoia and stupidity which 
makes them disbelieve *everything*.

The finest, ripest, hand-picked conspiracy kooks concoct the most 
ludicrous chain of events, tossing in impossible contrivances and 
non-existent tech to skirt around the more obvious and well supported 
explanation.

Even then, getting the kook to actually explain consistently what their 
theory is is like nailing jelly to a wall. It would be amusing to unify 
all the alternative suggestions together to show how stupid they are.

Whee this could be fun.

The Israelis in cahoots with the US and the ILLUMINATI dress up agents 
as hijackers and force three planes to land at military bases. Then they 
send 1 missile and 2 military jets painted in civilian livery towards 
their targets. The passengers are later sent off to the MOONBASE for 
experimentation and vivisection. One other hijacked plane bravely fights 
the Israeli agents dressed as terrorists and die as PATRIOTS. The two 
replacement jets (flown by computer) crash into the WTC towers, firing 
missiles at point blank range. Meanwhile a group of NINJAS have 
surreptitiously infiltrated the towers and hiding in the shadows have 
used Shinzuko hand drill technique have placed nano-thermite charges on 
all supporting columns on all 110 floors. Additionally the FREEMASONS 
have placed an anti-matter device in the basement. At the correct time, 
all of these charges detonate in a manner entirely consistent with a 
plane crash, structural damage and massive fires. The secret tech 
annihilates, leaving no trace it ever existed.

Meanwhile, the missile equipped with HOLOGRAPHIC MIND PROJECTION 
apparatus hits the pentagon. The mind control ensure that hundreds of 
witnesses see a passenger jet when in fact it was the missile. 
Unbeknownst to the conspirators, a security camera set to detect 
intruders captures blurry images of something large moving a speed. Its 
the missile!!! The government officials who blundered by releasing it 
were later shot.

Back at the WTC... in the chaos and confusion, the ninjas and freemasons 
move onto WTC7 which harbours ALIEN TECHNOLOGY and prime that for 
demolition. To ensure a "cover story" they ensure that the WTC collapses 
pelted the WTC7 with burning debris and use fake smoke to make it look 
like is on fire. Silverstein reveals the entire conspiracy when talking 
to the fire chief. He was later shot.

Across the river, the heretofore silent Israeli observers, terrorists, 
ninjas and freemasons all have a rooftop party. The BILDERBERG GROUP 
send over a couple of kegs. George Bush rings to congratulate them on 
causing trillions of dollars of economic damage to the US since now they 
have the excuse they needed to invade a shithole called Afghanistan.

Ahem.  Nicely put, but you forgot the HUGE POOLS OF MOLTEN STEEL.
hth.  


The clues for the above chain of events were discerned from imbibing 
alcohol, a gross misunderstanding of basic physics, a lack of common 
sense, incredulity and staring at high compressed jpegs for too long.

Problem is though there are dozens of videos of the events of 911 showing
exactly what happened which leave many unanswered questions. Even structural
engineers are unable to satisfactorily explain why all those towers fell as
they did. After all they were not made of plastic wood and cardboard like
some Hollywood set but a very strong high tensile steel framework.

I suspect you made up these structural engineers. But if you didn't, you 
should ask them how to make a skyscraper not reduce to a pile of rubble 
if one floor fails sending the 20+ floors above it into freefall and 
smacking into the remainder.

There are no other examples apart from in controlled explosions for tall
building totally collapsing as a result of fire and yet on 9/11 there were
three buildings that collapsed in that way and one of them wasn't even hit
by an aeroplane.

So how many of these skyscrapers you're making comparisons with were hit 
by fuel laden jet liners or pelted with burning debris and left to burn 
out of control?

It's also notable that both the main towers collapsed from the top down and
yet WTC 2 which was hit second and fell first was hit about half way up. If
fire had caused the collapse of the buildings surely one would expect both
towers to have keeled over at the point of impact and not evenly from the
top down as if in a controlled explosion.

Here is a big clue for you. There's this thing called gravity see. It 
pulls thing down, not sideways. Sheering or twisting might cause some 
sideways movement, but down is the big clue here. Perhaps you think 
buildings behave like trees?

Incidentally It's also interesting to note that the Empire State building
was hit by a B25 bomber on July 28th 1945
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92525&page=1 and although it suffered some
damage is still structurally sound to this day.

So you're comparing an empty B25 bomber, flying at 1/3rd the speed and 
1/3rd the weight with a a fuel laden 767? Even though it had an order of 
magnitude less potential energy, it still managed to do significant 
damage and killed 11 in the building.

Your point?

Did you even watch the footage of the jets hitting before making such a 
dumb comparison?

Heh.  She probably didn't even know that the B-25 Mitchell is actually
_shorter_ than an F-15 Strike Eagle.  Inconvenient facts to seem to
avoid the passionatly credulous, don't they?  


Having seen the events of 9/11 live on TV in the UK IMO the official
explanation is sheer nonsense, a total impossibility. It simply doesn't add
up at all. those towers come down like a pack of cards as if they were made
of match sticks and no one commentating on the event expected it, it was
shocking and surreal, still doesn't make sense and has never really been
satisfactorily explained.

You incredulity is noted. For your information, buildings are not 
designed to withstand the huge forces generated when a building comes 
down on itself. Progressive collapse or "pancaking" is a well understood 
risk in high rise buildings. Some designs might mitigate a collapse by 
providing secondary load paths, but nothing would have withstood 20 
stories coming down on the rest.

It will be interesting to see if this one can actually _learn_, or if
she's a slave to her beliefs.  I bet 2500 Quatloos that she'll either
run away, or embark on a dooomed campaign to "defend" her little
fantasy.  Any takers?

ESL! 

-- Bookman -The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in AFA-B Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast) Clue-Bat Wrangler Keeper of the Nickname Lists Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order Hammer of Thor award, October 2005 "I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely "****SPV....... So yes I am an idiot." "ASK THE NWS, YOUR TAX DOLLAR GOES TO THEM NOT TO DR.TURI." - Mr. Turi explains how to accurately predict hurricanes Bookman is yet another Usenet fignuten, meaning naysayer and/or rusemaster of their incest cloned Third Reich. In other words, you're communicating with an intellectual if not a biological clone of Hitler. - Brad Guth tries to wax "scientific", but invokes Godwin, instead. WWFSMD?