In news:Xns97EA553D9CA9Fthathillbillyyahooco@130.133.1.4,
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"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

In news:Xns97E9B97F7958Cthathillbillyyahooco@130.133.1.4,
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"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

In news:Xns97E964C3FBCECthathillbillyyahooco@130.133.1.4,
John Griffin <thathillbilly@yahooie.com> typed:

"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

Well I do have some difficulties with some of the
conspiracy theories for example how did they got they get
tonnes and tones of explosives into the WTCs without being
noticed and without it being subsequently noticed by the
thousands of people working there considering one would
think conventional explosives in the sort of quantities
required would be somewhat bulky.

Do you have a difficulty with the concept of planting all
that shit and then detonating it by flying an airplane into
the building?  For your information, fuses were invented
centuries ago.

But there weren't supposed to be any explosives planted in
the building at all and if there were it would have been
quite an undertaking to rig a building of that size and one
imagines requiring access to restricted areas which means it
would have had to have been done by people who could gain
access to such areas.

Yes, if I remember right, "the thermite story" of a couple of
years ago had all the building's maintenance staff in on the
conspiracy.  For some reason, the inventors of that idiotic
nonsense didn't try to explain how they were recruited. It's
so simple..."they" (the evil conspirators) simply paid a
real-life Tony Soprano and he ordered the union to order the
members to do it.  How did they keep that quiet...he told the
union members they would end up in the HUGE POOLS OF MOLTEN
STEEL under the remains of the buildings if they talk.

Well given Thermite is iron oxide and powdered aluminium 25.3%
Al and 74.7% Fe2O3 (by weight) both of which are commonly used
in anti-corrosion coatings e.g. red oxide paint aluminium
paints etc but is mostly Iron Oxide. I don't suppose it would
have been difficult to manufacture a thermite coating using
some sort of polymer base similar to car underseal and get
people to apply copious amounts to all the internal steel
beams as an anti-corrosion treatment, in fact it would
probably be quite effective.

It's called "need to know" basically a painter doesn't need to
know the exact chemical constituents of a paint in order to
paint steel beams. In fact the Hindenberg was painted with
explosive paint (although apparently by mistake) but no one
objected to that.

Note also this video about Thermite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OotM5Z4ZHRc
Actually it is quite entertaining especially the second
half with the French car LOL

Holy shit...the thermite story resurfaces.  ROTMFFLMMFAO!

Well Wikipedia gives quite a bit of information on Thermite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite Basically its a
powdered mixture of Iron Oxide and Aluminium. Neither of
those materials are difficult to acquire, after all Iron
Oxide is basically rust and there are numerous sources of
aluminium including beer cans and baking foil. Of course the
other thing about it is thermite can't be detected by
sniffer dogs because Iron oxide and aluminium are common in
the urban environment.

That's a far better thermite story than the old one. One of
its best points is its irrelevance.

It is a substance that could have been planted in someway
even as a coating without arousing suspicion. According to
Wikipedia it needs a fair amount of heat to ignite but
obviously there was no shortage of sufficient heat.

Huh?!  Sufficient heat where?  Are you saying that the
primitives flying the planes knew exactly where the thermite
was and were able to hit it?  Why would anyone, even the
zombies of The Pervert Mohammed's savage cult, be dumb enough
to do that?

Well it's possible the whole internal structure was coated
with revolutionary New Thermite(TM) anti-corrosion paint.

That said given that anti corrosion paints commonly contain
Iron Oxide and Aluminium (though not necessarily mixed), it's
possible Thermite like reactions could have taken place
spontaneously, obviously aeroplanes are made of aluminium and
steel frame buildings contain plenty of iron oxide in any case
since steel rusts. So clearly there were plenty of things to
react together e.g molten aluminium making contact with rust
coated steel should I would think cause a reaction.

Let's pretend you didn't say any of that, so we can continue at
whatever level we've taken you seriously so far.

Taking you seriously, how thick would a coat of your "thermite
anti-corrosion paint" need to be on an inch-thick steel beam to
raise the temperature of interior of the beam by one hundredth of
a degree?  (You said something earlier about the laws of physics,
so you should enjoy figuring that out.)

I couldn't tell you the exact amount, but what tends to happen in thermite
reactions from what I've seen and read is it creates such a high temperature
that fairly small quantities once combined with molten steel tends to burn
holes clean through fairly thick steel. One imagines it would also have a
tendency to destroy welds in overlapping joints to since molten steel and
thermite would very likely build up in those areas. Obviously that should be
enough to cause a catastrophic collapse.
-- 
Amanda