"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

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"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

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"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

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"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote:

Well I do have some difficulties with some of the
conspiracy theories for example how did they got they
get tonnes and tones of explosives into the WTCs without
being noticed and without it being subsequently noticed
by the thousands of people working there considering one
would think conventional explosives in the sort of
quantities required would be somewhat bulky.

Do you have a difficulty with the concept of planting all
that shit and then detonating it by flying an airplane
into the building?  For your information, fuses were
invented centuries ago.

But there weren't supposed to be any explosives planted in
the building at all and if there were it would have been
quite an undertaking to rig a building of that size and
one imagines requiring access to restricted areas which
means it would have had to have been done by people who
could gain access to such areas.

Yes, if I remember right, "the thermite story" of a couple
of years ago had all the building's maintenance staff in on
the conspiracy.  For some reason, the inventors of that
idiotic nonsense didn't try to explain how they were
recruited. It's so simple..."they" (the evil conspirators)
simply paid a real-life Tony Soprano and he ordered the
union to order the members to do it.  How did they keep
that quiet...he told the union members they would end up in
the HUGE POOLS OF MOLTEN STEEL under the remains of the
buildings if they talk. 

Well given Thermite is iron oxide and powdered aluminium
25.3% Al and 74.7% Fe2O3 (by weight) both of which are
commonly used in anti-corrosion coatings e.g. red oxide
paint aluminium paints etc but is mostly Iron Oxide. I don't
suppose it would have been difficult to manufacture a
thermite coating using some sort of polymer base similar to
car underseal and get people to apply copious amounts to all
the internal steel beams as an anti-corrosion treatment, in
fact it would probably be quite effective.

It's called "need to know" basically a painter doesn't need
to know the exact chemical constituents of a paint in order
to paint steel beams. In fact the Hindenberg was painted
with explosive paint (although apparently by mistake) but no
one objected to that.

Note also this video about Thermite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OotM5Z4ZHRc
Actually it is quite entertaining especially the second
half with the French car LOL

Holy shit...the thermite story resurfaces.  ROTMFFLMMFAO!

Well Wikipedia gives quite a bit of information on
Thermite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite Basically
its a powdered mixture of Iron Oxide and Aluminium.
Neither of those materials are difficult to acquire, after
all Iron Oxide is basically rust and there are numerous
sources of aluminium including beer cans and baking foil.
Of course the other thing about it is thermite can't be
detected by sniffer dogs because Iron oxide and aluminium
are common in the urban environment.

That's a far better thermite story than the old one. One of
its best points is its irrelevance.

It is a substance that could have been planted in someway
even as a coating without arousing suspicion. According to
Wikipedia it needs a fair amount of heat to ignite but
obviously there was no shortage of sufficient heat.

Huh?!  Sufficient heat where?  Are you saying that the
primitives flying the planes knew exactly where the
thermite was and were able to hit it?  Why would anyone,
even the zombies of The Pervert Mohammed's savage cult, be
dumb enough to do that?

Well it's possible the whole internal structure was coated
with revolutionary New Thermite(TM) anti-corrosion paint.

That said given that anti corrosion paints commonly contain
Iron Oxide and Aluminium (though not necessarily mixed),
it's possible Thermite like reactions could have taken place
spontaneously, obviously aeroplanes are made of aluminium
and steel frame buildings contain plenty of iron oxide in
any case since steel rusts. So clearly there were plenty of
things to react together e.g molten aluminium making contact
with rust coated steel should I would think cause a
reaction. 

Let's pretend you didn't say any of that, so we can continue
at whatever level we've taken you seriously so far.

Taking you seriously, how thick would a coat of your
"thermite anti-corrosion paint" need to be on an inch-thick
steel beam to raise the temperature of interior of the beam
by one hundredth of a degree?  (You said something earlier
about the laws of physics, so you should enjoy figuring that
out.) 

I couldn't tell you the exact amount, but what tends to happen
in thermite reactions from what I've seen and read is it
creates such a high temperature that fairly small quantities
once combined with molten steel tends to burn holes clean
through fairly thick steel. One imagines it would also have a 
tendency to destroy welds in overlapping joints to since
molten steel and thermite would very likely build up in those
areas. Obviously that should be enough to cause a catastrophic
collapse. 

So you are aware of the fact that heat could cause a catastrophic 
collapse.  You've come a long way, baby.  Next, ask yourself to 
learn the difference between heat and temperature.

You didn't answer my question. You alluded to the effect of a 
shaped charge of thermite instead.