In article <449d069c$0$76959$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl>, b says...

Your Name Here=Harvey schreef:

In article <ymYmg.73689$rC1.4921@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>, manic_mandy@hotmail.com says...

In news:e7h2550tho@news2.newsguy.com,
Cardinal Chunder <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> typed:

Complete and total bollocks. Hundreds of commercial and military
pilots from WWI, WWII, Korea onwards would disagree with you. Do you
think jet pilots in 1949 used sophisticated computer systems? Do you
think they used *any* computer systems?

Problem is you are talking obsolete vintage aircraft that were limited by
the technology of the time. But even in WWII rudimentary pathfinder
technology was used to allow the RAF Lancaster bombers to perfom night raids
on blacked-out German cities. basically this consisted of beamed radio
signals that crossed over the target area.

Of couse these days one could put a cruise missile through Bin Liners's
letter box.
-- 
Amanda

The argument is about how can someone do the crash, without proper
training for it. That for such precise strikes - they had to have trained
for it, if they were piloted passenger jetliners.
There is the idea that they were remote unmanned aircraft, which will
then explain the accuracy achieved and the different markings
on the aircraft, and fuselage pod difference.

Harvey

sigh...
and the passengers are.... where....?

There is no unified agreement among those who have tried to follow
the possibilities through - as to exactly what did happen on 9-11???

Only that the official story, does not fit the facts...

And that the information, facts about the plane strikes are
'peculiar' which does not fit the official explanation.

It is not only a 'Who Dunnit?' or 'How was it done?' but also..
'What exactly did happen?'

This is a list of some of the videos about people trying to get to the
bottom of 9-11. Some do comment on the political manipulations done prior to 9-11
and afterwards, explaining how the Bush administration clearly pushed through
policies, which 9-11 allowed them to do so, with the utmost speed.
These people put themselves in the firing line of ridicule, and they appear to be
ordinary people, not prepared to accept the official story whitewash.
A lot of these speakers use information from the mainstream media, just to
show how these 'facts' simply do not add up to the official story.

[Documentary].The.Great.Conspiracy-The.9-11.News.Special.You.Never.Saw.wmv                                   199961 KB 
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.02.Nicholas.Leviss.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                     34246 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.04.Gray.Brechin.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                        54206 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.05.Webster.Tarpley.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                     112318 KB 
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.06.David.Rovics.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                        11799 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.08.Mark.Taylor.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                         66900 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.09.Mike.Ruppert.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                        73512 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.15.Michel.Chossudovsky.Video.[sharethefiles.com].wmv           42096 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.16.Paul.Thompson.Pakistan.[sharethefiles.com].wmv              51867 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.17.Sander.Hicks.Role.Of.Drugs.[sharethefiles.com].wmv          20720 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.18.Liberty.Bound.Excerpt.[sharethefiles.com].wmv               41064 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.19.News.Clips.Carol.&..Nich.[sharethefiles.com].wmv            13923 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.21.Richard.Heinburg.War.Oil.[sharethefiles.com].wmv            56635 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.23.Joyce.Lynn.Cover-Up.Commission.[sharethefiles.com].wmv      58546 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.25.Dan.Hopsicker's.Atta.Girl.Friend.Clip.[sharethefiles.co.wmv 10181 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.26.Dan.Hopsicker.After.Clip.[sharethefiles.com].wmv            30398 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.37.Jim.Marrs.9-11.Conspiracies.Familiar.Pattern.[sharethef.wmv 47176 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.38.Ellen.Mariani.Ver.Sus.Bush.[sharethefiles.com].wmv          83071 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.44.Q.&.A.With.Audience.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                 81201 KB  
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.45.Mariani.Speaks.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                      1751 KB   
2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.46.Phase.2..9-11.San.Fran.Program.End.[sharethefiles.com].wmv  59596 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.01.Commission.Mission.Statement.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                50508 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.10.Michael.Springman.Visas.For.Terrorists.[sharethefiles.com].wmv      25235 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.15.Indira.Singh.Sibel's.Letter.Ptech.[sharethefiles.com].wmv           50631 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.16.Indira.Singh.Q&A.W.Rupert.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                   44106 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.21.John.Judge.Intelligence.Agencies.[sharethefiles.com].wmv            27927 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.22.Final.Audience.Q&A.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                          58650 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.23.Program.End.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                                 6634 KB   
2004.-.LA.Citizens'.911.Grand.Jury.-.03.Lynn.Pentz.Overview.Previous.9-11.Inquiries.2.02.[sharethefiles..wmv 3886 KB   
2004.-.LA.Citizens'.911.Grand.Jury.-.10.Lynn.Pentz.9-11.World.View.Dr.Griffin.Intro.5.24.[sharethefiles..wmv 10359 KB 

2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.04.Mindy.Kleinberg.Testimony.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                   17989 KB  
2004.-.Citizens'.Commission.On.9-11.-.11.Paul.Thomson.Intell.Warnings.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                41216 KB  
Hijacking.Catastrophe.2004.DVDRip.Extras.-.Beyond.the.Frame.-.Alternative.Perspectives.on.the.War.on.Ter.avi 64432 KB  
Hijacking.Catastrophe.2004.DVDRip.Extras.-.Constructing.Public.Opinion.-.How.Politicians.and.the.Media.M.avi 42528 KB  
Hijacking.Catastrophe.2004.DVDRip.Extras.-.Peace,Propaganda.and.the.Promised.Land.-.U.S.Media.and.the.Is.avi 72718 KB  
Hijacking.Catastrophe.2004.DVDRip.Extras.-.The.Economics.of.Empire.XviD-LisaB.avi                            49628 KB  
Hijacking.Catastrophe.2004.DVDRip.XviD-LisaB.Extras.-.Edward.Said.on.Orientalism.avi                         51612 KB  
Hijacking.Catastrophe.2004.DVDRip.XviD-LisaB.Extras.-.Interview.with.Lt.Col.Karen.Kwiatkowski.-.Former.2.avi 160076 KB 

2004.-.1St.Intl.Citizen's.Inquiry.Into.9-11.-.45.Mariani.Speaks.[sharethefiles.com].wmv                      1751 KB   
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2004.-.LA.Citizens'.911.Grand.Jury.-.02.Mindy.Kleinberg.Widow.Testimony.9.20.[sharethefiles.com].wmv         8874 KB   
2004.-.LA.Citizens'.911.Grand.Jury.-.10.Lynn.Pentz.9-11.World.View.Dr.Griffin.Intro.5.24.[sharethefiles..wmv 10359 KB  
911-The Great Illusion - Part 1 - A Must To See (V).wmv                                                      137485 KB  

Harvey