Subject: Re: Do we all agree that 9/11 was an inside job//Debunkers ARE implicated
From: "Justin Case" <NoFuckin'Way@UgottaBkidding.net>
Date: 29/06/2006, 01:00
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic

"Cardinal Chunder" <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
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Justin Case wrote:
"Cardinal Chunder" <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
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Justin Case wrote:
"Cardinal Chunder" <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
It matters to YOU but not to me.
I can see it doesn't matter to you. You have this little fantasy world
you've concocted and you're not going to let any inconveniences like
reality or facts intrude on it.

I see, because of a mis spelt a name I must be living in a fantasy world
according
to you. If you rub both your brain cells together you still couldn't
kindle
a clue.

No you live in a little fantasy world where Rupert Murdoch controls 90%
of the media, and you'll be damned if pesky issues like reality are
going to stop your ignorant spouting. The fact that you can't spell even
his name is just the crowning turd on your kookiness.

It is you that is full of shite. If you want to argue about what % murdoch
owns,
it is a moot point. It does not constitute a fantasy world  to see that
Murdoch's
media empire reaches what I estimate to be about 90% of  the population.

I see in people like you a deep seeded fear that the 911 official story
could be wrong.
A fear that corruption of the magnitude implied could infest our government
at the highest levels.
You mask your fear with hostility and attack any view that upsets your
notion
of what you choose to believe as the truth.

That is why I pity you.

Take a look at a piece of the Murdock empire, it looks like 90% to me. If it
is not
exactly 90% it does not matter. He has contol of what counts ,and by use of
his propaganda
machine helps control elections, general opinions of the population, and a
host of other 'kooky'
things.



     Books

Imprints, primarily under the HarperCollins umbrella, include -

HarperCollins
Perennial
Cliff Street Books
The Ecco Press
Quill
HarperAudio
Regan Books
Amistad Press
William Morrow
HarperTorch
Eos
HarperEntertainment
HarperSanFrancisco
HarperInformation
HarperBusiness
HarperResource
Fourth Estate
Access Travel
William Morrow Cookbooks
Branded Books Program
HarperCollins Children's Books
Greenwillow Books
Joanna Cotler Books
Laura Geringer Books
HarperFestival
HarperTrophy
Avon
Tempest
HarperCollins International

     terrestrial broadcast, cable & satellite

United States

Fox Broadcasting Company (discussed in a supplementary note elsewhere on
this site)
85% of Fox Entertainment Group Inc which includes ...
Fox SportsWNVW - New York City
KTTV - Los Angeles
WFLD - Chicago
WTXF - Philadelphia
WFXT - Boston
WTTG - Washington D.C
KDFW - Dallas
WJBK - Detroit
WAGA - Atlanta
KRIV - Houston
WJW - Cleveland
WTVT - Tampa
KSAZ - Phoenix
KDVR - Denver
KTVI - St Louis
WITI - Milwaukee
WOFL - Orlando
WOGX - Ocala
WDAF - Kansas City
KSTU - Salt Lake City
WHBQ - Memphis
WGHP - Greensboro
WBRC - Birmingham
WPR - Chicago
KTBC - Austin
KVC - Austin Fox Sports Net
Fox Sports South
Fox Sports Pittsburgh
Fox Sports Southeast
Fox Sports Midwest
Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
Fox Sports Arizona
Fox Sports Northwest
Fox Sports West
Fox Sports Detroit
Fox Sports Bay Area (with Rainbow Media Holdings)
Fox Sports Chicago (with Rainbow Media Holdings)
Fox Sports Cincinnati
Fox Sports Intermountain West
Fox Sports New England (with Rainbow Media)
Fox Sports New York (with Rainbow Media)
Fox Sports Ohio (with Rainbow Media)
Fox Sports Southwest (with Rainbow Media)
Madison Square Garden Network (with Rainbow Media)
FiT TV
The Health Network
Fox Sports World
FX
National Geographic's cable channel (50% with GE and National Geographic)
Golf Channel (33%)
The Family Channel
MTM Entertainment
Fox News Channel
FxM
Outdoor Life (34%)
Speedvision (34%)
TV Guide Channel (44% with Liberty Media)
34% of Hughes Electronics (satellite broadcaster DIRECTV with over 11
million subscribers in the US, 81% equity in satellite operator PanAmSat,
and Hughes Network Systems)

United Kingdom

British Sky Broadcasting (40% - Vivendi may dispose of 24.5% of BSkyB)
Music Choice Europe (49%)
QVC (20%)
Sky Multi-Channels (over 40 channels, including the following in which BSkyB
has an economic interest)
- .tv
- National Geographic Channel UK (50%)
- Paramount Channel (25%)
- Sky One
- Sky News
- Sky Soap
- Sky Travel
- The Computer Channel
- Nickelodeon UK (50%, with Viacom)
- The History Channel (50%)
- Sky Scottish (50%)
- Granada Sky Broadcasting (40%) - with Granada
- Granada Plus
- Granada Talk TV
- Granada Men & Motors
- Granada TV High Street
- Granada Food & Wine
- Granada Health & Beauty
- Granada Home and Garden
- Fox Kids
- Premium Channels
- Sky Movies
- The Movie Channel
- Sky Sports
- Sky Movies Gold
- Sky Sports 2
- Sky Sports 3

Germany

TM3 (66%)
Premiere World - 24% (owned through BSkyB)

France

13% of Breton cable tv group TV Breizh (Berlusconi's Mediaset has 13%)

Italy

Sky Italia (inc Telepiu and Stream) pay tv operation

Australia

FOXTEL (25%) - with Packer (25%) and Telstra
- Arena (50%)
- Channel V (50%)
- FOX
- FOX History
- FOX Soap
- FOX Talk
- FOX Travel
- FOXTEL Weather
- FX
- Nickelodeon (25%)
- Sky News Australia (33.3%)
- UK TV (60%)
- Fox Sports
- The Comedy Channel (80%)

Asia

Star TV
- STAR Chinese
- STAR Plus
- STAR Movies
- STAR Plus Japan
- STAR Movies South
- ESPN STAR Sports (50%)
- STAR Sports
- Channel V (50%)
- Viva Cinema (50%)
Phoenix Satellite TV (17.6%)
- Phoenix Chinese

Canada

minor stake in CTV Sportsnet

India

ISKYB
Asia Today (50%)
ZEE TV
- EL TV
- ZEE Cinema
Siti Cable Network (50%)

Italy

Stream (minority stake)

Indonesia

Indiovision (46%)
Film Indonesia (50%)

Japan

News Broadcasting Japan (80%)
SkyPerfect TV (11%)

Latin America

Canal Fox
Fox Sports Americas (owned by Fox/Liberty Media)
Fox Kids
Telecine (12.5%)
CineCanal (21.5%)
Sky Latin America DTH Platform
- Innova (30%) - with Televisa
- NetSat (36%)
- Latin America (30%)

     Magazines & Inserts

North America

TV Guide (partial)
TVSM
TV Total
Cable Guide
The Weekly Standard
Maximum Golf
In Store
FSI
In Store (Canada)
FSI (Canada)

UK

Nursery World - sold to Exponent Private Equity October 2005

Pacific

Pacific Islands Monthly

     Film Production & Distribution

Twentieth Century Fox
Fox Filmed Entertainment
Fox 2000
Fox Searchlight
Fox Family Films
Fox Animation Studios
Twentieth Century Fox Home
Twentieth Century Fox TV
Fox Studios Australia

     Newspapers

News claims to be the world's leading publisher of English-language
newspapers, with over 175 titles in the UK, Australia, Fiji, Papua New
Guinea and the US. It employs around 15,000 people worldwide, printing more
than 40 million copies a week.

United States

 New York Post

United Kingdom

 The Times
Times Literary Supplement
The Sunday Times
The Sun
News of the World
Times Education (inc Times Education Supplement and Higher Education
Supplement) - sold to Exponent Private Equity September 2005

Australia

The Australian
The Weekend Australian
The Daily Telegraph
The Sunday Telegraph
Sportsman
Herald Sun
Sunday Herald Sun
The Weekly Times
The Courier Mail
The Sunday Mail
Gold Coast Bulletin
Adelaide Advertiser
Cumberland Newspaper Group (20 titles in Sydney suburbs)
Leader Newspaper Group (30 titles in Melbourne suburbs)
Cairns Post Group (42%)
North Queensland Newspaper Group
Townsville Bulletin
Quest Community Newspapers (17 titles in Brisbane suburbs)
Northern Territory News
Sunday Territorian
Centralian Advocate
The Suburban
The Mercury
The Sunday Tasmanian
Tasmanian Country
Treasure Islander
Derwent Valley Gazette
Sunday Mail
Messenger Press Group
Sunday Times (Perth)

Fiji

The Fiji Times
Nai Lalakei (Fijian)
Shanti Dut (Hindi )

Papua New Guinea

Post Courier (63%)

     sports

New York Knicks (20% stake through partnership with Cablevision)
New York Rangers (20% stake through partnership with Cablevision)
Los Angeles Kings (NHL, 40% option)
Los Angeles Lakes (NBA, 9.8% option)
Staples Center (40% owned by Fox/Liberty)
National Rugby League Championship (50%) - Australian football

     radio

Analog and digital radio holdings include -

Sky Radio (71%)
Fox Sports Radio Network
Sky Radio Sweden (28%)
TALKCO (20%)
Radio Veronica (42%) - Netherlands
Sky Radio Denmark
Sky Radio Germany
Sky Radio Netherlands
ClassicFM - Netherlands
     technology and multimedia

Technology and interactive holdings include -

NDS (formerly News Digital Services)
SiVenture - UK-based smartcard consultancy
News Advanced Technologies
News America Digital Publishing
News America New Media
News Internet Services
Healtheon/WebMD (11%)
TheStreet.com (partial stake with New York Times)
Rivals.com (46%)
iSyndicate (partial stake with Scripps, NBC, InfoSpace, Vignette, and
Microsoft)
News Digital Systems (UK)
Line One (33%)
Sportal (5% through BSkyB)
Orbis - interactive gambling software
News Interactive (Aust) - including NEWS.com.au, CareerOne, AustralianIT,
FOX SPORTS, CARSguide and RealEstate.com.au
PDN Xinren Information Technology (50%)
     music

News has minor recording interests, centred in Australia -

Mushroom Records
Festival Records
     outdoor advertising

News Outdoor Group (NOG), established in 1999 and headquartered in Moscow,
includes -

News Outdoor Bulgaria
News Outdoor Czech Republic
News Outdoor Poland (Town & City)
News Outdoor Romania
News Outdoor Russia
Kamera (Turkey)
News Outdoor Ukraine
NOG is concerned with billboards, advertising on street furniture and bus
shelters, airport transit advertising and in-store point of sale displays.

     Other

Other holdings include -

Broadsystem - customer relationship management services (UK and Australia),
one of the UK's top five telemarketing agencies
News Optimus - (formerly Broadsystem Ventures) telephony and telemarketing
services
SmartSource Marketing - direct mail and in-store advertising, promotions and
merchandising programs in Australia and New Zealand
NewsMarketing - direct mail and in-store advertising, promotions and
merchandising programs in Canada
New America Marketing - direct mail and in-store advertising, promotions and
merchandising programs in US
Convoys Group - UK newspaper distribution
PLD Telekon (38%) - Indonesia
Newspoll (50%) - opinion polling
Disposals in recent years include Australian pastoral company F.S. Falkiner
& Sons (2000)


http://www.ketupa.net/murdoch1.htm#newspapers


Murdoch, an Australian immigrant, is arguably the most powerful Republican
in America. He is Dubya's Teflon man.  Murdoch's idiot box is one of the
primary reasons so many Americans continue to believe that Saddam was
involved in the 9/11 attacks. If you watch FOX, you are likely to believe
that the fictional WMD caches were not only found but that the 'anti-Iraqi'
insurgents in Fallujah regularly deploy them.

So, where does that leave us? We have a $3.9 billion dollar tab for an
election that is blatantly manipulated by media barons who have a vested
interest in inflating the campaign tab. We have a media industry that
operates as a virtual monopoly and is actively consolidating into the hands
of a few very powerful unelected individuals. The one-man one vote franchise
has been severely eroded and Murdochracy rules in the cradle of democracy.
And the elected officials responsible for fixing this structural threat to
the Republic are an integral part of the problem.

Tens of Millions of Americans are fully aware that we live in a media
controlled state but don't quite know what to do about it. Before you
despair, allow me to propose a modest solution. Cancel the election and
allow Rupert Murdoch to appoint the president.

This solution has many obvious benefits. First, It will introduce a measure
of transparency to the process. Most likely, we will end up with the very
same candidate we would get through the ballot box - or a close replica.
Another advantage is that we will have positive identification of the horse
the president rode to the White House. Every time the president espouses a
policy we don't like, we can ring up Rupert and give him a piece of our
mind. Citizens who are really pissed can always take direct action and
cancel their cable.

Second, it will be easier to keep track of Murdoch then of a thousand shady
operators who spend so much money acquiring access to the White House.
Canceling the elections will eliminate the need for costly campaigns. Doing
away with expensive campaigns alleviates a candidate's dependency on wealthy
donors.  Before you know it, privileged access will be a thing of the past
and the president can be free of the obligation to dispense special favors.
The only citizen the president will have to mollify will be Murdoch. All
Murdoch could possibly want is a hostile takeover of CNN at a fraction of
the market price. Good riddance to the entire CNN staff.

It is one thing to live in a Murdochracy and quite another to know your real
political address. Maybe when Rupert starts appointing the president, a lot
of us will start noticing the dilapidated condition of our political
environment.

There is only one minor problem with this plan. Murdoch is very likely to
appoint Murdoch. Now, that would be plain unconstitutional because Rupert
wasn't even born in the USA. So, we can always deport that problem when we
get to it.