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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:44:36 GMT, "Amanda Angelika"
Proves nothing.  Which never stops the konspiracy ko0ks.  Ever

heard

of Occam's Razor?

Occam's Razor is used to trim the fat off of scientific theories.

Bullshit. It is, to paraphrase, to favour the simpler explanation,

all

things being equal.

Surrrrrrrre it is kookman,

The most useful statement of the principle for scientists is,

"when you have two competing theories which make exactly the same
predictions, the one that is simpler is the better."

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/occam.html

Congratulations for confirming what I said you dolt.

It also confirms what I said. You are just a troll.

No it doesn't you ignorant fucking cretin. Occam's Razor has nothing to
do with "trimming the fat off of scientific theories".

Sure it does, 'all things being equal' when you have two theories explaining
the same thing
the less complicated theory is usually the more correct of the two. I call
that trimming the fat.
You don't, BFD.

Concerning 911, all things are not equal.
Nice try though

You're right they're not equal. Konspiracy kooks (that's you) don't

have

a single shred of evidence to back up your wild fantasies. You don't
even state with specificity what your wild fantasies even.

You like to label people don't you ?
I look at the facts, about 911 the facts point to conspiracy.
Only a credulous fool would believe the 'official' explaination
that has so many holes in it that it sank faster than the titanic.
Only a credulous fool would continue to defend it.

And what is the conspiracy? I've asked you repeatedly for details and as
yet you have not even said. Please explain what actually happened.

The towers came down and thousands of people died. Happy now ?

I bet you believe Kennedy was killed by a lone assassin.
Why not ? The official explaination said so.

Non sequitor. 9/11 could have been a conspiracy and JFK not, or vice
versa, or both could have been or both could have not been. JFK is
utterly irrelevant to this thread in other words.

I don't play by your rules.
Non sequitor or not it is plain to see you avoided my assertion.

It would not be wise to use it in conjunction with a conspiracy

because

most conspiracies have patsies and cover stories.

And apparently casts of thousands all prepared to murder in the most
baroque convoluted and nonsensical series of events that only a kook
could string together.

Your kookiness is showing. What cast of thousands ?

The cast of thousands required for any of the stupid alternative
explanations that kooks allude to without providing details.

It would not require a 'cast of thousands ' to have orchestrated 911.
Why do you assume it must ?

Well you tell me your alternative theory and why it doesn't require a
cast of thousands. All of the kooky theories I've heard thus far that
allude to explosives in the building, remote controlled planes, dancing
Mossad agents, painted military jets etc. do require a cast of thousands
at all levels of government in the US and even abroad. They even require
complicity by investigators, firemen, police and large numbers of eye
witnesses.

If your theory is different, let's hear it. I've asked you repeatedly to
provide one and yet you won't. Why is that I wonder?

Let me clear that up for you. I don't jump to conclusions.
After reading the 'official' report it was plain to see that many
facts were not even mentioned. It was a whitewash.

I remember that day all to well, as I am sure most of you do to.
I was at home, had a day off from work, got up early to do a list
of chores. My sister called and told me what had happened.
I turned on the tube and watched in horror as the second jet hit.

The very first thing on my mind, the first words I uttered were
' what in hell was NORAD doing' to stop this.
I continued to watch in disbelief until the report came in that the
pentagon had been hit. My disbelief turned to rage ' where in hell was
NORAD'
how could they have let this happen ?

Then I wondered what Bush was doing. He was reading a story about a goat but
I didn't
know that until a few days later. When I saw Bush being told about a jet
hitting the towers
I was furious. Our nation is under attack and he just continued to sit there
like an idiot doing
absolutely nothing about the situation. It was later that I learned that he
was not being told about
the first jet hitting but the 'second' plane hitting. I could not believe
it. He already knew about the
first jet but did not change his schedule, the goat story was that important
?

About a week later Bush was giving a speach when someone asked him what he
was doing on 911.
He said when he saw the first plane hit he said to himself 'that is one bad
pilot'.
That was a lie. No one saw the video of the first plane until weeks after
911 when the footage from that french
documentary team showed the first plane hit.

(a very shocking doc, if you have a chance to see it please do, the french
team were some of the first people
to arrive at the towers and filmed the whole thing. They were inside the
first  tower when the second one fell.)

I have a copy of that video - about 90 mins - I might upload it to binaries
if enough people are interested.
I believe that would come under the 'fair use' act, and would not be
considered piracy.

The main issues that do not ring true for me is:

1. The prez knew about the first tower but went to hear a goat story anyway.
2. The second plane hit but he continued to stay.
3. After it was obvious we were under attack why didn't the secret service
usher the
prez out of the school since his whereabouts were a matter of public record
and he could have
very well have been a target. Unless they knew he wasn't a target, and how
would they know that ?
4. That 'STUPID' grin on the prez's face after the second plane hit while he
listened to the goat story.


That is just the begining.