In news:44cda70d$0$14533$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl,
dre <v> typed:

There are plenty of sites and books about the Pyramids. Even the
sites that discuss the Great Pyramid from the standpoint that it was
built by the ancient Egyptians can't give a credible explanation as
to how they did it. The statistics of the great Pyramid are
staggering even by today's standards, and unless the Ancient
Egyptians were much more advanced than we realise, which seems
unlikely from all the other evidence we have. It is highly unlikely
that they built the Pyramids without outside help. People have
attempted to prove the Egyptians could have done it, but no one has
succeeded in presenting a credible explanation.

not for you perhaps,engineers find it very likely..

Not even by basic common sense

For example ideas involving

poles have been postulated. Problem is the great pyramid was 481ft
tall when it was first built so where on earth would they have fount
a tree 481ft tall

oh boy..this showes your not an engineer...
poles?...
why do they need poles excactly that lenght?
do we need poles of 400 metres when whe build
skyscrapers?

This was based on something suggested on a Website by someone describing
himself as a mathematician. He had a theory it was a bit like a Maypole.
This might have been possible with small Pyramids but a 481ft crane with a
boom made entirely of wood capable of lifting 20 ton limestone blocks using
nothing more than slaves, oxen or even teams of elephants as a power source
using primitive ropes does stretch the imagination somewhat. These days we
build cranes of steel, have powerful motors and thick steel ropes. But even
this http://www.towercrane.com/ which is said to be the largest and most
powerful tower crane in the World would be too small to built the great
Pyramid.

and why were the most early pyramids faulty to say
the least?
if they had help from et's why couldn't they
prevent such failures?
i tell you,because after hundreds of years they
finally got it right!
the giza pyramids are the best and biggest,just
the way we do when we master technology,after time
we have the experience to build in a correct way....

Of couse it could be the opposite way around, the best pyramids came first
because they were already there, the smaller ones and the failed attempts
are the work of the Ancient Egyptians.

Greek historian Herodotus reported (100,000 men) to have been

used for the construction of the Great Pyramid was
plausible.

We do know much more about the work activities, particularly at Giza,

then ever before.  Archaeologists have carefully
studied the worker's villages,

the craft shops, the bakeries and other related
structures, which of course give us

  some idea of the workforce. So how many people
did it take to build the Great Pyramid at

Giza? Verner tells us that the current consensus
among Egyptologists sets the figure at a

  little more than 30,000. Lehner, who has worked
at Giza for many years and conducted experiments

  on building pyramids, is considered one of the
leading authorities on these structures. He claims

a somewhat lower estimate, including carpenters to
make tools and sledges, metal workers to make

  and sharpen cutting tools, potters to make pots
for food preparation and hauling water for mortar and

other purposes, bakers, brewers and others,
consisting of between 20,000 and 25,000 workers at any

  one time. In fact, as the pyramid grew, fewer
and fewer men were probably required, for work at
the top

Actually no you would need more people to haul 20 ton stones to the top,
that you would at the bottom.

  required much less stone and the construction
space became more limited. This number of men, which

was probably drastically reduced during the
agricultural seasons, probably finished the Great
Pyramid

In which case you would not have had room for the workers, or animals used
to haul the stones 481ft in the air.

of Khufu in less then 23 years.

Which apparantly given there are over a million 20 ton blocks would mean
laying a block somewhere in the region of one every 3.5 minutes. LOL

WHY did they need 30000 workers when aliens did
the work or helped them?

herodotus
never ever reported of aliens in his writings....
so why in HELL should we?

People wearing bird masks and with animal heads were fairly normal if their
art is to be believed, those people don't look very human, maybe the masks
are some form of breathing apparatus :)

The people who supposedly

built them didn't have GPS in fact we are told had no concept of Pi
or Pythagoras's theorem LOL.

so you think it is impossible...an open mind you say?
why do you think those people were stupid?
are you so narrow minded that only modern gadgets
can align thos pyramids?
cut on  the hollywood movies,you are starting to
believe them.
it is FICTION!

No the Pyramids do actually exist, you can visit them yourself.

i know...but hollywood is making films wich are
not very real or don't you agree?
i guess you think stargate is real?

Who knows?

You can also

check out their perfect alignment using Google Earth or Google Maps
http://tinyurl.com/oaetw. They are not fictional they are very real
and all the amazing and mind blowing statistics are true.


Mathematical geometry doesn't lie. Coincidence can exist but when
you have highly complex geometric patterns correlating perfectly
time and time again on different planets in our own solar system,
given the odds against that happening by itself due to a natural
process are in the order of trillions to one, then one can safely
assume the evidence is fairly conclusive. It's not a matter of
belief the fact speak for themselves :)

oh it's a belief ,no mustake about that.
and give the egyptans some credit building the
pyramids and don't be arrogant to say they were to
stupid to align the pyramids..

There art shows they had no understanding of persepctive, which means they
didn't understand trigonometry. :)
-- 
Amanda