dre <v> wrote in news:4508f6d7$0$98420$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl:

Anyway the information reveals exactly who is being truthful in their
story.
eg.

Flight 11                  Flight 175             Flight 77
7:59am takes off with      8:14 takes off with    8:20 takes off with
       81 passengers            56 passengers          58 passengers
        9 flight attendents      7 flight attendents    4 flight
        Attd. 2 pilots                 2 pilots               2
        pilots 
8:13 last radio comm.      8:42 Off course        8:50 last radio
comm. 8:20 transponder off       8:43 FAA notifies      8:56
transponder off 
     & sudden course ch.        NORAD of hijack   

8:46 Collision with North  9:03 Collision with South
               Tower                      Tower   9:38 Collisiion at
                                                       Pentagon
10:28 Collapse of North    9:59 Collapse of South Tower
                  Tower         [56 mins burning]
      [1hr 14 mins burning]

There should not be inconsistancies in this information.
eg. John Lear, a very experienced airliner pilot, said that even he
would have had a very difficult time to crash his plane into the twin
towers, 

no it is not...a test in my country was performed 
on a simulator exactly like the plane hitting the 
pentagon.
it was said the plane could not menoeuvre that 
way...well it could,only 1.5 g was noticed and a 
novice at flying flew it 6 times in the pentagon 
with no difficulty...
the flight instructure could only agree with the 
outcome...

or the Pentagon (this last target in particular being very difficult 
because of the precision involved) - and so the official story that
Muslim fanatics who only had Cessna training (and a flight instructor
who observed one of these so-called hijackers, saying he was
incompetent) flew these planes -- well, something's amiss here?
And for NORAD to stay passive for so long, and not be keeping a
watchful eye on the events as they happened - they still have the
capacity to track the airliners, even with transponders turned off
(they'll just be unidentified on their radar screens, so they should
have stood out from all the identified traffic going on).
Anyway even those tend to disbelieve the official story, would
welcome 100% evidence that the official story stands. Just produce
the evidence that this is so. Release all the videos of the Pentagon
strike - so far only one camera source has been shown, and it doesn't
show exactly what did strike the Pentagon?

those camera's make only 1 picture every second or 
so and with poor quality.
and why do we need that camera?
debris is on the field ,lights knocked down,people 
saw the plane,plane debtis in the pentagon,
so what don't you believe...
thank god their are lots of film about the wtc 
planes...otherwise you would question that too!
and still it is not accepted by some...they say 
it's a military plane...oh boy...

It isn't enough to say that foresnic evidence confirmed that these
planes hit their targets --- we need to know the details, ie. the
actual information which confirms this, to be convinced.
It is the early photographs taken at the scene, which can show
exactly what did happen? Particularly in the Pentagon strike, those
very early photographs of the crash site/debris/etc tell their own
story. 

a cruisemissile don't have a landinggear..or plane 
fuselage..or can penitrate that deep...
or leeves airplane seats...or can hit 2 lantern 
posts ,only a plane can with that wingspan...
thousands saw a plane,1 witness said it "sounded 
like" a missile..yes sounded,but he did not say it 
WAS a missile...,that line was used in conspiricy 
video...as evidence it wasn't a plane...
criminal editing i call this...

There were only 4 fighter jets available at this time, to cover
this amount of airspace.
It just happens to be convenient there were some wargames going on
at this time?
The above figures and times should bring up a lot of questions that
needs to be answered.



The USA shows a complete lack of understanding of the Middle East
and it should not have got involved.
Before Saddam, Iraq had a thug and thugee like environment and 
history, and when the US removed Saddam, all hell has since broken
loose because no one was going to control the pandemonium that
ensued. Likewise the Soviets had a complete lack of understanding
about Afghanistan - little did they realise that the Afghan's hobby
is fighting, and no one is better at it, than they.

The US government and it's officials don't like to admit to their
mistakes and errors of judgement.
See any interview in which Lt. Col Karen Kwiatkowski
speaks her mind about working experiences within the Pentagon
http://www.scotthortonshow.com/index.php?tag=karen-kwiatkowski

Harvey

oh i agree....the reps are a bunch of morons who 
shoots first and keeps shooting till everyone is dead.

At the very least with the Pentagon strike, what you have is an
airliner that does something unusual (in fact, it was the third of
four aircraft to behave exactly the same way, ie. have no
radio contact and the transponder turned off) that 40-48mins
later it would be entering one of the most? protected airspaces
in the USA? So the question becomes what was NORAD doing all this
time, during 9-11??? And the US Airforce, what was the procedure
for something like this to happen, how should they have responded???
What you have here, is severe incompetence - now, have these
questions been answered at all? Is complete silence the only
answer?
Backtracking from this question, will probably bring up other
inconsistancies, which need explanation too. Some of which I have
mentioned.

Harvey