According to Dr. Karla Turner, who has worked with over 400 abduction
cases and has written the book "Into the Fringe", says if abduction
accounts can be believed and there is confirmation of many of these
facts with other researchers - the abduction phenomena includes some of
the following details: from -UFO Universe, Spring 1993. Aliens -Friends
or Foes by Dr. Karla Turner:
· Aliens can alter our perceptions of our surroundings.
· Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us any
number of guises and shapes.
· Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can make
themselves only partially visible.
· Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the well-known
scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include single
punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three-and four fingered
claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.
· Female abductees often suffer serious gynaecological problems after
their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts,
tumours, cancer of the breast and uterus, and to hysterectomies.
· A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses they
didn't have before their encounters. These have led to surgery,
debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors can't identify.
· Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien during an
experience, not just the greys. Every possible combination of grey,
reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen during
single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same facility.
· Abductees report being scoffed at, jeered at, and threatened by
their alien captors. Painful genital and anal probes are performed...
Unknown fluids are injected into some abductees.
· Abductees-"virgin" cases- report being taken to underground
facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures, nurseries of
hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of coloured liquid filled with parts
of human bodies.
· Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being
drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and
stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been
threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don't
co-operate with their alien captors.
· Aliens come into homes and temporarily remove young children,
leaving their distraught parents paralysed and helpless. In cases where
a parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The children
belong to us."
· Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse
with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens
observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have
sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the
abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain
celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.
· Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures on
abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no explanation
why.....Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as
well as adults.
· Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and
destruction. They say that a certain number of humans...will be
"rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either on
another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over. Many
abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and foresee
instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans.
"In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from
unrelated cases, confirming that such bizarre details are not the
product of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing
evidence that, contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the
abduction experience isn't limited to uniform pattern of events. This
phenomenon simply can't be explained in terms of cross-breeding
experiments or scientific research into the human physiology.......
Before we allow ourselves to believe in the benevolence of the alien
interaction, we should ask, do enlightened beings need to use the cover
of night to perform good deeds? Do they need to paralyse us and render
us helpless to resist? Do angels need to steal our fetuses? Do they
need to manipulate our children's genitals and probe our rectums? Are
fear, pain, and deception consistent with high spiritual motives?"
......Dr. Karla Turner.
SOME PHILOSOPHICAL AND OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THESE MESSAGES
While there seems to be evidence for UFO related activities as
mentioned above, perhaps there are other possible explanations. There
seem to be, from reports and research, components which parallel
paranormal, psychic, and spiritualistic manifestations, etc.5,6. Many
UFO abductees, contactees and researchers, for instance, believe there
is an interdimensional or multidimensional quality to the UFO phenomena
and related experiences. Although the UFO phenomenon may appear real
enough, it also could be a holographic illusion or a transmorification
of matter and energy. Perhaps certain intelligences have the power to
shape matter and spirit. Some ufos and their occupants seem to have an
ability to shape shift and appear and disappear.5,6
Dr. J. Allen Hynek suggested the phenomenon appears to be more psychic
than extra-terrestrial and perhaps comes from a parallel world. This
also seems to be Dr. Jacques Vallee's explanation.6,9
Dr. Vallee also notes that there are authoritarian overtones to some of
the messages given to contactees8 ie. democracy is obsolete, elections
should be done away with4, racist ideologies are encouraged - some have
more alien DNA etc., a New World Order is needed and will be set up
with alien help. He also believes that some kind of control system is
being set up by the UFO phenomenon which challenges our traditions and
human beliefs systems.6,8 Many abductees report implants and feel they
are being manipulated for some unknown purpose that's yet to be
revealed.
New Age Philosophies
Much of the messages given to abductees and contactees seem to be New
Age in philosophical orientation and language: there are no moral
absolutes, reincarnation is taught, monastic beliefs such as a vague
"kinship with the Cosmos and it's oneness with the Universe or the
Universe as a supreme being" are common, we are being told that "we
stand on the precipice of a quantum leap forward on both a biological
and spiritual level." Man is or is becoming God...etc. 3,13
Who defines good or evil?
If man is one with the cosmos or some impersonal concept of God there
cannot be a basis for truth or ethics. The impersonal, as such, is
silent about such things. There is no basis for saying anything is
right or wrong if all is one with God. What you are left with is total
relativism or the arbitrary absolutes of the controllers who ever they
may be. "If All is One , good and evil are reconciled, then one can can
do nothing bad; thus Manson was only acting logically....the fact that
Manson's followers knew him as both Satan and Christ highlights the
collapse of distinctions between good and evil under moral
relativity".13
As well, finite alien creators cannot provide sufficient absolutes. You
have the same problems as pagan polytheism - the gods are too small to
account for the creation of the universe and not good enough to provide
a basis of morals and truth. Is abducting and raping women okay if
extra-terrestrials do it? Also, why all the authoritarian overtones to
some of the messages? Do they really have our best interest in mind or
is there evidence of some kind of control system?
Rael and The Elohim
There are several alien types taking credit for the creation of man and
now some contactees like Rael and Benjamine Cream are claiming to be
prophets of some messianic authority. In fact Rael is claiming to be
the new final prophet and chosen "Messiah" of this age...chosen by a
group of extra-terrestrials who call themselves the Elohim who told
Rael that they created the human race through genetic engineering. Rael
has over 35,000 followers world wide who call themselves Raelians...and
they wish with the Elohim's help, to usher in a world government ruled
by an authoritarian elite. 4
Matrea
Cream is promoting another "messiah" he calls "Maytrea". Full page ads
in newspapers around the world have announced that this world teacher
is in the world to-day. Cream is also convinced that the intelligences
behind the crop circle phenomena are paving the way for the soon
unveiling of his messiah who will usher in a New World Order and a New
Age.
Skye Ambrose, a famous abductee who was "born again" as she said, as a
result of her encounter with a strange "grey" type of alien with bright
sparkling eyes, predicted at a recent UFO conference in Bellevue,
Washington; that "evolution was entering a "peak cycle" that will
create a New Order on the planet.
Polarization is occurring on this planet to separate those who will
accept the message and evolve toward Unity and Oneness and
self-realized Godhood and those who will not not."
Messages to Mankind
Many alien prophesies to contactees of the 50's or to-day have failed
to come true or appear to be outright lies.14
Many contactees and abductees to-day are again delivering warnings of
coming earth changes and disasters along with promises of help from
aliens...they feel chosen to deliver a message to mankind ...the
prophesies may be creating a false hope and dependency in their
abductors who they know little about.
A New Golden Age? ...or Slavery?
So what are we dealing with? New Age aliens with some promise of a
golden age or some unimaginable deception to enslave undiscerning
minds. The evidence seems to point to the latter. There have been many
false messianic claims and those foolish enough to repeat history by
following the voices of deceiving entities have been warned to "beware
of false prophets and Christs who come disguised as sheep but
underneath are ravenous wolves ".10 We should be reminded of the likes
of Adolf Hitler who not long ago promised a New Age to unsuspecting
Germans.
Aliens or Demons?
Whitley Strieber, in a recent issue of the monthly MUFON Journal, Sept.
93, states, "I've come away from this experience convinced of one
thing: if there aren't demons out there, there might as well be,
because these guys are indistinguishable from demons.
Indistinguishable. To see them, to look into their eyes, is to be less
- forever.......". Strieber seems to swing from horror to naive trust..
you see this in his books and statements to the public. Perhaps, he is
not so sure of the visitor's intentions.
Perhaps we should heed the old warning; 'If, anyone says to you then,
"Look, here is the Christ" or, "He is there", do not believe it; for
false Christ and false prophets will arise and produce great signs and
portents, enough to deceive even the chosen , if that were possible."11
Why should we be concerned?
Some UFO researchers suggest that perhaps the so called 'aliens' aren't
much of a threat, after all if they have been around for this long and
have not taken over then why should we be concerned. However, if they
are not what they appear to be, and the phenomenon has other potentials
and realities which include: deception, false messianic claims,
dangerous ideologies, the formation of cults, etc., then for
historical, social and political reasons we should not abandon our need
for discernment and caution.
Here are some great UFO quotes that shed light on the deceptive nature
of the "alien" presence.
"But the UFO phenomenon simply does not behave like extraterrestrial
visitors. It actually moulds itself in order to fit a given culture."
-John Ankerberg, The Facts on UFOs and Other Supernatural Phenomena, p.
10
"Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them
in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of
deception."
-Dr. Jacques Vallee, Messengers of Deception, p. 20
"We are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon which
is largely indigenous to planet earth."
-Brad Steiger, [cited in] Blue Book Files Released in Canadian UFO
Report, Vol. 4, No. 4, 1977, p. 20
"We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises
itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us."
-Terrence McKenna [from a lecture]
"One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs
are interstellar spaceships."
-Arthur C. Clarke, New York Times Book Review, 07/27/75
"There seems to be no evidence yet that any of these craft or beings
originate from outer space."
-Gordon Creighton, Official 1992 Flying Saucer Review Policy Statement
"A large part of the available UFO literature is closely linked with
mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental
telepathy, automatic writing and invisible entities as well as
phenomena like poltergeist [ghost] manifestation and 'possession.' Many
of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press recount
alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic possession and
psychic phenomena."
-Lynn E. Catoe, UFOs and Related Subjects: USGPO, 1969; prepared under
AFOSR Project Order 67-0002 and 68-0003
"UFO behaviour is more akin to magic than to physics as we know it...
the modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably
identical."
-Dr. Pierre Guerin, FSR Vol. 25, No. 1, p. 13-14
"The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor
variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon..."
-John A. Keel, UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse, p. 299
"Studies of flying saucer cults repeatedly show that they are part of a
larger occult social world."
-Stupple & McNeece, 1979 MUFON UFO Symposium Proceedings, p.49
"The 'medical examination' to which abductees are said to be subjected,
often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of
the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a
sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped
with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to
achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time
and with fewer risks."
-Dr. Jacques Vallee, Confrontations, p. 13
"The symbolic display seen by the abductees is identical to the type of
initiation ritual or astral voyage that is embedded in the [occult]
traditions of every culture...the structure of abduction stories is
identical to that of occult initiation rituals...the UFO beings of
today belong to the same class of manifestation as the [occult]
entities that were described in centuries past."
-Dr. Jacques Vallee citing the extensive research of Bertrand Meheust
[Science-Fiction et Soucoupes Volantes (Paris, 1978); Soucoupes
Volantes et Folklore (Paris, 1985)], in Confrontations, p. 146, 159-161
"[The occultist] is brought into intelligent communication with the
spirits of the air, and can receive any knowledge which they possess,
or any false impression they choose to impart...the demons seem
permitted to do various wonders at their request."
-G.H. Pember, Earth's Earliest Ages and Their Connection with Modern
Spiritualism and Theosophy (1876), p. 254
"These entities are clever enough to make Strieber think they care
about him. Yet his torment by them never ceases. Whatever his
relationship to the entities, and he increasingly concludes that their
involvement with him is something 'good,' he also remains terrified of
them and uncertain as to what they are."
-John Ankerberg, The Facts on UFOs and Other Supernatural Phenomena, p.
21
"I became entirely given over to extreme dread. The fear was so
powerful that it seemed to make my personality completely evaporate...
'Whitley' ceased to exist. What was left was a body and a state of raw
fear so great that it swept about me like a thick, suffocating curtain,
turning paralysis into a condition that seemed close to death...I died
and a wild animal appeared in my place."
-Whitley Strieber, Communion, p. 25-26
"Increasingly I felt as if I were entering a struggle that might even
be more than life and death. It might be a struggle for my soul, my
essence, or whatever part of me might have reference to the eternal.
There are worse things than death, I suspected... so far the word demon
had never been spoken among the scientists and doctors who were working
with me...Alone at night I worried about the legendary cunning of
demons ...At the very least I was going stark, raving mad."
-Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 44-45
"I wondered if I might not be in the grip of demons, if they were not
making me suffer for their own purposes, or simply for their
enjoyment."
-Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 172
"I felt an absolutely indescribable sense of menace. It was hell on
earth to be there [in the presence of the entities], and yet I couldn't
move, couldn't cry out, couldn't get away. I'd lay as still as death,
suffering inner agonies. Whatever was there seemed so monstrously ugly,
so filthy and dark and sinister. Of course they were demons. They had
to be. And they were here and I couldn't get away."
-Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 181
"Why were my visitors so secretive, hiding themselves behind my
consciousness. I could only conclude that they were using me and did
not want me to know why...What if they were dangerous? Then I was
terribly dangerous because I was playing a role in acclimatizing people
to them."
-Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 96
Notes:
1. The Fellowship, by Brad Steiger.
2. Ibid pp. 47
3. Ibid pp. 185
4. The Messages Given To Me By The Extra-terrestrials -Rael
5. Operation Trojan Horse- John Keel pp. 200-233
6. Dimensions- Dr. Jacques Vallee
7. Transformation The Breakthrough- Whitley Strieber pp. 180, 240.
8. Messengers of Deception- Dr. J. Vallee. Last chapter.
9. UFO'S in the New Age- William M. Alnor , Baker Book House 1992.
10. Matthew 7:15-20
11. Matthew 24: 23-28, Luke 21, 1 John 2:18-23, 1 John 4:1-6, 1 Thess
2:1-12.
12. Teachings of the Pleiadians- Bringers of the Dawn.
13. Understanding the New Age- Russell Chandler, Word Publishing, 1988.
14. Deuteronomy 18:9-22.
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Harvey@NZ wrote:
noahdove7@lightspeed.ca wrote in news:1158613384.551985.65040
@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Answer:
- they can take on different forms (shapeshift}, appear solid or
transparent, appear and dematerialize or be invisible.
- they can manipulate matter and energy to create such things as
crop-circles, ufos, mysterious lights, orbs, etc.
- they can affect electrical devices and batteries and cause them to
malfunction.
- Some of these entities can harm, abduct or sicken and kill humans
and animals,
- they are masters of deception and lies
- they can create false religions and cults.
- they can move and levitate objects, people and animals,
- They are scared of God and Jesus.
- they hate the metal iron because it reminds them of the future
judgement and fate in the lake of fire which contains molten metal
iron.
- they are involved with paranormal phenomena, real magic and can
deceive mystics and people
that are involved with the occult or spiritism, animism, or the worship
of false gods and idols.
- they can possess people and drive them insane or use them as
channelers and mediums.
- they can create lying signs and wonders
- they can disguise themselves as beings or angels of light or can
manifest in hideous forms.
- they can destroy people's faith in God and create apostasy.
- they can seduce people to follow them into hell and ruin
You have such a silly and wrong answer for the above, showing
your complete lack of knowledge of these subjects.
Harvey